yea...offer sheets are rare because most teams negotiate in good faith...and chances are...if you're offering something reasonable, another GM isn't going to come and blow that out of the water with an inflated offer sheet that comes with draft compensation.

But in this hypothetical situation, you have a GM trying to deploy bully negotiating tactics and it wouldn't be as hard to attract a reasonable offer sheet to sign

McDavid

I think also as we saw with MTL and CAR the fear of retaliation is real

As wow talk about revenge

U wanted to get AHO from us FU we take KK

And to me that started the oh **** cant do that as one day this team gonna pounce when we vulnerable


Cause how many times was there a real good shot to OS but a team didnt take it

Sandin and Liligren for instance 4.2m OS Toronto only gets a 2nd and whoever did it gets a young player with upside


Honestly it feels like the NBA where its almost extinct lul

and one other thing...in order for a team to keep an RFA from becomming a UFA...they need to issue a qualifying offer...which is 1year.

So why couldn't knies accept the qualifying offer....that would take him to 4 years of service, and then he'd be eligible for arbitration where a 3rd party determines a fair salary and term.

Sorry...there's just so many things factually wrong and illogical with the approach

This isn't a video game, why would Knies agree to being under paid if he thinks he's worth more?

About JT...not sure how the rest of you feel but man he's lost alot of speed..not that he had tons to begin with. That has made him such huge defensive liability.

I think once his deal is done, thank him for his years and look elsewhere for someone younger and cheaper because cap wise, there's not much choice but to go younger and cheaper.

And? In this example, it's a 4 year deal... means you wait 1/4 years and trade him... Would rather do that then have to negotiate with 27 year old UFA Knies

No, it's called got your young players locked down, that's how you avoid bad deals like than Marner one...

Sorry bud... NHL is a business... If you have fear in negotiations, they'll walk all over you

Who signed for 8 years...

Think of all the best contract in the league, 90% signed for 8 years

Why would JH sign for 8 then? Former 1st overall pick
Why would Draisaitl sign for 8 then?

It's called if Knies is worth x rn, pay him x+2 mill for 8 years as the cap goes up... Then, you get to negotiate with 27 y/o Knies Instead of 1rst year UFA

McDavid is the reason Hyman looks like a bargain. He isn't a point a game player away from McDavid.

So you want to give Knies a huge 8+ a year deal? Those examples are not good. Both players are better than Knies. And you are saying sign him for 8 years at 4.5 or less. You can't just demand he sign for 8 at a low cap and just say sign it or else. Why would he do that? Because you say so?

ya...operate your business with a 4 year grudge regardless of performance. Makes sense. Future CEO potential for sure right here

I don't know how old you are or what you actually do if your old enough for a job....but I am involved in negotiations and contracts every day and can promise you I'd be fired a long time ago if I took your approach

Idk despite the speed going down he still is a very good player



https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/why-maple-leafs-should-make-retaining-john-tavares-a-top-priority/

Like at 5.5m-6.1 x 2 years I wouldnt mind him back but there are other things to consider to

The Leafs aren't going to let their captain walk away. JT will definitely get resigned

Hes the one Im going 50/50 as I think their focus is to keep the young trio, give Matthews the captaincy in 2025-2026 season

As there are valid arguments for moving on and keeping

He will be 34 and if we factor they may target McDavid the following season they may decide to move on. If he asks for over 7m they also should look into moving on

Doesn't matter, he's resigning. It just doesn't make sense to let him go. Hopefully they give him 6 years at 5.5

I mean it does make sense to let him go

Hes gonna be 34 once his deal's done

Teams move on from Captains and guys like this when they feel its time due to age or other factors. Its not like Matthews, Marner or Nylander who are young and just entering their primes. JT at this point is passed that

6 years at 5.5m will put him at 40 years old hell nah thats a bad deal waiting to happen. We dont want anchors here and with that JT deal u get 1 maybe 2 decent years of it

We have a 5 year window and there is a solid opportunity to do something interesting with the space they can get from his deal being done...Draisaitl or McDavid for instance could happen if we move on

I'll bet you real money right now JT gets signed

And I bet it's going to be significantly less than what most people think (4.5m x 2y)

Since Dec. 1st #LeafsForever forwards 5v5 production and rank overall in the NHL.

Matthews - 13 points (17th)
Nylander - 12 points (27th)
Marner - 11 points (36th)
Domi - 10 points (45th)
Tavares - 6 points (158th)

I realize points are not everything but am I crazy for wanting Domi at 2C.

And I’m totally cool to let Tavares walk

In general I dont see the point if a guy like Draisaitl is sitting right there or if your saving for McDavid in 2026. Sure it means 4 guys in double digits but either one of those guys be an upgrade rn

Unless hes going 5m x 2 years then I go sure here's the X sign here.

In general with guys like Draisaitl and McDavid potentially available why not save for them

Could also use Domi or other guys. As there are some really good options these next two FA in terms of Centers, Wing, and Dman

Shea Theodore anyone?

https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/status/1746235617829126505?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

24 years old

6 years is too long at that price but I’d take 4 years at 5.5

The guy is still nearly a point a game player. And what he does is still extremely useful. He'll win faceoffs and be a good leader deeper in the lineup. If McDavid is available and wants to come to TO you figure that out when it happens. Not before