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Hanifin and Tanev 2 for 1 Special

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 7 déc. 2023
Publié: 7 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I expected Tanev to be worth a 1st + 3rd or so. Chris Johnson is claiming he is worth a 2nd. If that's the case, I am all in.

Hanifin extends 7.25m x 8 years
Tanev extends 3.5m x 2 years

Cap move will need to be made when Lily is back.
Transactions
TOR
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 475 000 $ retained)
  2. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Hanifin extends 7.25m x 8 years
Tanev extends 3.5m x 2 years
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
I view Niemela as a 2nd.
I view Abruzzesse as a 7th.
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2026
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2183 500 000 $75 706 450 $0 $0 $7 793 550 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
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UFA - 2
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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UFA - 1
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796 667 $796 667 $
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RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
C
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UFA - 4
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
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UFA - 3
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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-1 125 000 $-1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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-1 237 500 $-1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
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UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 20
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I doubt Hanifin comes but I would do that
7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 21
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Lol
Did u get this from a Habs fan??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 22
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If you waive reaves do you gain enough cap?
7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 23
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I guess only if you do 11-7 it can work
7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 24
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If you waive reaves do you gain enough cap?


yes but only 11 forwards. 11 forwards and 8 D. We can stick Timmins as a FWD, if worst comes to worst lol
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 25
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Lol
Did u get this from a Habs fan??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Did I get what from a habs fan?
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 34
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Did I get what from a habs fan?


That trade proposal
7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 36
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That trade proposal


No. The point you are trying to make is very unclear. Please explain.
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 37
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So the Leafs spend 10.75m on two Dman and give up Niemela and about years worth of trades picks. Yikes.
10.75m could be spend on other UFAs and Leafs keep all their prospects. Admitting the Leafs get two Dmen for a Cup run this year, but we know how unsuccessful these TDL additions have been to Leafs and virtually all teams.
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 37
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
No. The point you are trying to make is very unclear. Please explain.


I’ll put it as simply as possible
Your trade proposal is nonsense
It’s so bad, it’s like the idea came from a Habs fan 🤣🤣🤣
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 41
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I’ll put it as simply as possible
Your trade proposal is nonsense
It’s so bad, it’s like the idea came from a Habs fan 🤣🤣🤣


For the Leafs or for Calgary?
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
For the Leafs or for Calgary?


You must be quite the “homer” if u think this is a good deal for CGY
That’s why i compared it to a Habs fan proposal
Wow dude
This isn’t that complicated
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 47
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You must be quite the “homer” if u think this is a good deal for CGY
That’s why i compared it to a Habs fan proposal
Wow dude
This isn’t that complicated


If Tanev is worth a 2nd round pick, as per Chris Johnson. And I am claiming Niemela being worth a 2nd, those cancel out.

So 1st, 2 x 3rds, 5th for Hanifin.

What about this valuation do you disagree with? I am open to legit feedback.

Also stating "this was made by a habs fan" told me that the value was poor for the Leafs because Habs fans tend to not like Leafs fans and therefore they would be screwing over the Leafs.

You have no ability to make your point clearly. No one could have guessed who or what you were talking about from your first few posts. We aren't mind readers.
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 51
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If Tanev is worth a 2nd round pick, as per Chris Johnson. And I am claiming Niemela being worth a 2nd, those cancel out.

So 1st, 2 x 3rds, 5th for Hanifin.

What about this valuation do you disagree with? I am open to legit feedback.

Also stating "this was made by a habs fan" told me that the value was poor for the Leafs because Habs fans tend to not like Leafs fans and therefore they would be screwing over the Leafs.

You have no ability to make your point clearly. No one could have guessed who or what you were talking about from your first few posts. We aren't mind readers.


First,
U aren’t accounting for the Cap being held

Second,
you aren’t accounting for the extensions agreed upon

Third,
Habs fans don’t like ANYONE. It was a very simple joke to get,
you just didn’t. Nbd i guess
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7 déc. 2023 à 19 h 54
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First,
U aren’t accounting for the Cap being held

Second,
you aren’t accounting for the extensions agreed upon

Third,
Habs fans don’t like ANYONE. It was a very simple joke to get,
you just didn’t. Nbd i guess


This is a very reasonable response. This is all I was asking for. Thank you!
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7 déc. 2023 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: palhal
So the Leafs spend 10.75m on two Dman and give up Niemela and about years worth of trades picks. Yikes.
10.75m could be spend on other UFAs and Leafs keep all their prospects. Admitting the Leafs get two Dmen for a Cup run this year, but we know how unsuccessful these TDL additions have been to Leafs and virtually all teams.


Yeah I agree they maybe shouldn’t resign both of them definitely resign tanev but Hanifin likely doesn’t resign even if he does agree to come to Canada
7 déc. 2023 à 21 h 10
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So 1st 3rd and Niemela for Hanifin? And then Abruzzese, 3rd, and 5th for Tanev? No thanks
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7 déc. 2023 à 21 h 17
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You must be quite the “homer” if u think this is a good deal for CGY
That’s why i compared it to a Habs fan proposal
Wow dude
This isn’t that complicated


Of all the Leafs Fans on here TMLBRIAN is definitely on the lower end of homerism but I agree this is not a trade Calgary would make.

2 reasons. Putting all your eggs in 1 basket is never a logical choice. Since only 1 team can win the cup, having your assets spread out is far more logical when trading for futures.

Secondly it's simply not a great return, Hanifin is worth like 80% of that return, and Tanev is not a throw in
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7 déc. 2023 à 21 h 17
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So 1st 3rd and Niemela for Hanifin? And then Abruzzese, 3rd, and 5th for Tanev? No thanks


was thinking Niemela (2nd) for Tanev (based on CJ saying Tanev would fetch a 2nd). All the rest of the picks for Hanifin.

I always assumed that Tanev would get a 1st + 3rd but CJ is reporting different. So I decided to make this AGM based on that report.
7 déc. 2023 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
This is a very reasonable response. This is all I was asking for. Thank you!


Man, I'm sure we've had our disagreements in the past, but you actually tried to set aside your bias and make as realistic a trade as possible here, so I genuinely respect you taking the high road as you're much less offside here. I don't think you're far off at all, so continue basing your trades off of precedence rather than hateful feedback like this. This site needs more people like yourself IMO.
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7 déc. 2023 à 21 h 57
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
Man, I'm sure we've had our disagreements in the past, but you actually tried to set aside your bias and make as realistic a trade as possible here, so I genuinely respect you taking the high road as you're much less offside here. I don't think you're far off at all, so continue basing your trades off of precedence rather than hateful feedback like this. This site needs more people like yourself IMO.


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7 déc. 2023 à 22 h 26
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I'm not sure I even have the words how out-of-bounds crazy this trade is. CGY clearly says no.
8 déc. 2023 à 9 h 40
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
You must be quite the “homer” if u think this is a good deal for CGY
That’s why i compared it to a Habs fan proposal
Wow dude
This isn’t that complicated


Perhaps his comprehension skills aren't the real issue. Seems your natural personality doesn't need negative 'Habs fans' connotations to be viewed as irrational. Just be your natural self! Kind regards.
 
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