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Vlasic for Armia

Créé par: DFinn91
Équipe: 2023-24 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2023
Publié: 6 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Deal?
Transactions
MTL
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard (3 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $79 660 001 $25 000 $932 500 $3 839 999 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
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RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
RFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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825 000 $825 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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789 167 $789 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1

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6 déc. 2023 à 11 h 26
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No deal, too many LHD as it is and Armia's deal is up sooner
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6 déc. 2023 à 11 h 31
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Even at half-retained, Vlasic has a bad contract and has uninspired play which is on the books for another 2 years (when he's almost 39). Even if you got a second team to take another half he'd have to go somewhere where you know he'd find some element of his past game. Not sure I see a fit, my guess is Ferraro is the one who is in play right now.
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6 déc. 2023 à 11 h 36
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I feel like both teams decline, we don’t need mid wingers we have a lot of young guys coming up, this would be a log jam
6 déc. 2023 à 12 h 5
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Sharks don't need cap relief by trading Vlasic. We have like 34m in space next year even with him on the books and a buyout this summer or next would save more space than this deal would when you take into account Armia coming back.

Joel Armia probably isn't going to be a apart of the Sharks future anymore than Vlasic is really going to be a part of Montreal's long term future. This deal doesn't really do anything for SJ so we'd essentially be tying up a retention slot for 3 years for nothing. Even talking conservatively that slot could be used to bring back 2 or 3 picks over that time, which would be better for us than Armia.
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6 déc. 2023 à 12 h 36
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Montreal doesn't have room for Vlasic, Armia doesn't have the same trade protections, fills a spot better and is done earlier. They easily decline.

Not that San Jose should tie up all their retention spots until the 2025 without getting assets.
6 déc. 2023 à 13 h 16
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Vlasic is literally, no hyperbole, the worst contract in the league. Its not even close. The only way to move him, realistically, is if SJ massively incentivized it, which no sane GM would do so it might as well be impossible.

I would take any other contract in the league over his. Huberdeau, Anderson, Nurse, Campbell, Gallagher, etc

Vlasic is not an NHL'er anymore. He's literally only still there because his contract is buyout proof and a rebuilding SJ team may as well get the veteran leadership from Vlasic if they are going to still have to pay him. Its not like they have oodles of young Dmen to take his place either so at this point might as well keep him for now.

...but make no mistake, he's is truly the worst contract in the league. Armia would be a massive upgrade in talent and cap saving and i'm not saying Armia is anything special at all either but I'd much rather him than Vlasic.
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13 déc. 2023 à 19 h 59
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Quoting: matthias893
Sharks don't need cap relief by trading Vlasic. We have like 34m in space next year even with him on the books and a buyout this summer or next would save more space than this deal would when you take into account Armia coming back.

Joel Armia probably isn't going to be a apart of the Sharks future anymore than Vlasic is really going to be a part of Montreal's long term future. This deal doesn't really do anything for SJ so we'd essentially be tying up a retention slot for 3 years for nothing. Even talking conservatively that slot could be used to bring back 2 or 3 picks over that time, which would be better for us than Armia.

This proposed trade is a good idea in theory but matthias hit the nail on the head here.
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