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Thoughts on value

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Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 4 déc. 2023
Publié: 4 déc. 2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 568 929 $20 000 $1 850 000 $-68 929 $
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4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 12
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Rather just keep the exciting young prospect and hope Laine rebounds.
4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 13
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In my opinion, Laine and Kyrou's value are pretty much the same so why would Columbus add a blue chip prospect?
4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 13
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Laine and Kyrou would be a one of one swap.

Adding KJ in there makes this an easy decline from Columbus side.

I would personally keep Laine over Kyrou but their values would be close.
4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 17
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No way CBJ gives you Kent Johnson for Kyrou let alone adding Laine as well.
4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 31
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The Blues would want no part of Laine whatsoever, so value doesn't matter.
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4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 47
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The Blues would want no part of Laine whatsoever, so value doesn't matter.


You get KJ for free in this. No shot the Blues turn this down.
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4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 49
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I'd say...

Kyrou > Laine
Kyrou < Laine + Johnson
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4 déc. 2023 à 17 h 55
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You get KJ for free in this. No shot the Blues turn this down.


Heh. You guys pretending the Blues would even remotely consider a Kyrou for Laine swap as "even" is cute, but not close to reality on multiple levels. Kyrou has considerably more value, if only because he has a lower AAV and far longer deal.

I repeat: The Blues would not touch Laine with a 100-ft. isotope claw. I'm not saying Columbus would accept this trade, I'm only speaking from the Blues perspective.
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4 déc. 2023 à 18 h 30
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I'd say...

Kyrou > Laine
Kyrou < Laine + Johnson


Spot on. This is closer in value than a lot of Columbus fans would want to admit, but still not enough to pull the trigger. I don't see a world where Columbus moves Laine. The rest of the league is so down on him and his contract is so much higher than what his production warrants, it just makes sense to keep him and hope for a rebound, or move him when you absolutely have for either cap or roster reasons.
4 déc. 2023 à 18 h 35
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Quoting: mokumboi
Heh. You guys pretending the Blues would even remotely consider a Kyrou for Laine swap as "even" is cute, but not close to reality on multiple levels. Kyrou has considerably more value, if only because he has a lower AAV and far longer deal.

I repeat: The Blues would not touch Laine with a 100-ft. isotope claw. I'm not saying Columbus would accept this trade, I'm only speaking from the Blues perspective.


It’s closer than you’re implying. It’s not even $600k/yr difference, and Kyrou is signed until 2031 so you’re tied to that cap hit for five more years for basically the same production from the same position. You can argue that Laine isn’t a stylistic fit for whatever the Blues’ system is, but you’re being absolutely ridiculous with your “100 foot isotope claws.”
4 déc. 2023 à 18 h 40
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Spot on. This is closer in value than a lot of Columbus fans would want to admit, but still not enough to pull the trigger. I don't see a world where Columbus moves Laine. The rest of the league is so down on him and his contract is so much higher than what his production warrants, it just makes sense to keep him and hope for a rebound, or move him when you absolutely have for either cap or roster reasons.


Maybe Laine + Chinakhov for Kyrou/pick
4 déc. 2023 à 18 h 42
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Maybe Laine + Chinakhov for Kyrou/pick


Laine + Chinakhov for Kyrou is something I'd do, I think that's there for value but I doubt many fans of either fanbase would be happy.
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4 déc. 2023 à 18 h 50
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Quoting: Ktownchef
No way CBJ gives you Kent Johnson for Kyrou let alone adding Laine as well.


fair but i think this was laine for Kyrou with Johnson added on lol
 
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