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How an actual Tanev to Toronto trade would look

Créé par: Ledge_And_Dairy
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 nov. 2023
Publié: 9 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 45
Saison restante: 23%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 96 069 822 $
Description
Stop including Klingberg to Calgary, Flames don't want him and he is fine as long as your actual d-core has depth. He's also got a very proven playoff history so Toronto should keep him.

Tanev at 75% retention has a very manageable cap hit of 1.125M and the retaining team would be paying him less than 275k in actual money so it shouldn't cost more than a 5th.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Tanev, Chris
11 125 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
75% retained
CGY
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
2.
TOR
    25% retention on Tanev
    BUF
    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
    Enfoui
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de NYI
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    2025
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de CHI
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2026
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2183 500 000 $83 256 450 $0 $0 $243 550 $
    Masse salariale proratée

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    925 000 $216 797 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 640 250 $2 728 184 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    6 962 366 $1 631 805 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 500 000 $1 289 063 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 000 000 $2 578 125 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    10 903 000 $2 555 391 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    796 667 $186 719 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    3 000 000 $703 125 $
    C, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 100 000 $492 188 $
    AD, C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    775 000 $181 641 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 400 000 $562 500 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    762 500 $178 711 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    7 500 000 $1 757 813 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Tanev, Chris
    1 125 000 $263 672 $
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    3 550 000 $832 031 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 000 000 $1 171 875 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 400 000 $328 125 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    766 667 $179 688 $
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 000 000 $468 750 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    4 150 000 $972 656 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    800 000 $187 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 625 000 $1 318 359 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    4 687 500 $1 098 633 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 125 000 $263 672 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 30
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    Leafs going to Leafs
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    Klingberg is moved to CGY, mostly bc Leafs fans (including myself) include Zadorov and other assets too and cap management
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 33
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    Tank it baby
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    Can't see Buffalo helping Toronto but stranger things have happened.
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 34
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    This would only happen under the following conditions:

    1) CGY is 100% out of it
    2) Timmins is Healthy
    3) CGY didn’t receive a better offer
    4) We’re approaching the Final Hours before the Deadline

    I think EDM & TOR both need to make a move sooner than that though
    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 35
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    Quoting: SharkTank
    Can't see Buffalo helping Toronto but stranger things have happened.


    Me neither. I don't think pegula is gonna have any interest in buying fifth round picks.
    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 41
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    I mean Klingberg would go the other way to make the money work lets be real.

    At that point if CGY is trading guys like this they dont care whose coming they just want picks and to tank

    Unless Toronto was going for multiple CGY pieces I dont see why they would want a 3 team trade

    An example was 2022 Toronto didnt really need Minny for the ROR trade but because they wanted to keep Kerfoot had to use it.
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 41
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    Quoting: SharkTank
    Can't see Buffalo helping Toronto but stranger things have happened.


    picked a team 20M+ deadline cap space and probably aren't selling. Could be Detroit, Columbus, Winniepeg, Nashville, Anaheim, Chicago, whatever. It's a free asset for virtually nothing I dot see it as any different from Minnesota helping facilitate 2 trades last deadline
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 43
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    Quoting: KingofRnR
    This would only happen under the following conditions:

    1) CGY is 100% out of it
    2) Timmins is Healthy
    3) CGY didn’t receive a better offer
    4) We’re approaching the Final Hours before the Deadline

    I think EDM & TOR both need to make a move sooner than that though


    I don't agree. I think a 1st and Timmins is a very reasonable return. I doubt Toronto makes any rash moves right now though. Edmonton maybe
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 43
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    I what world Sabres are helping Leafs ?
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    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 51
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    Modifié 9 nov. 2023 à 19 h 1
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    I don't agree. I think a 1st and Timmins is a very reasonable return. I doubt Toronto makes any rash moves right now though. Edmonton maybe

    Clearly you value Timmins and late 1st Round Picks more than I do. It’s not unreasonable, but given the clear interest and demand for Tanev, that gets beat easily
    9 nov. 2023 à 18 h 52
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    The pick should be easy…but I bet the player comes from off the roster if they are asking for 75% retention.
    9 nov. 2023 à 19 h 3
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Klingberg is moved to CGY, mostly bc Leafs fans (including myself) include Zadorov and other assets too and cap management


    Why do you and most of your fellow Toronto adherents think that Calgary is going to treat Tanev and Zadorov as a matched set that cannot be broken up?

    I think that it's more likely that Calgary will re-sign Zadorov than that the Flames will trade both of them in the same package.
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    9 nov. 2023 à 19 h 5
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Why do you and most of your fellow Toronto adherents think that Calgary is going to treat Tanev and Zadorov as a matched set that cannot be broken up?

    I think that it's more likely that Calgary will re-sign Zadorov than that the Flames will trade both of them in the same package.


    BC Treliving is targeting both... As stated by multiple sources... So why make two separate trades with the same team within a few weeks?
    9 nov. 2023 à 19 h 27
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    Flames would want a prospect and 1st Rd pick and mid Rd pick.
    9 nov. 2023 à 19 h 40
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    BC Treliving is targeting both... As stated by multiple sources... So why make two separate trades with the same team within a few weeks?

    The only thing that you can infer linguistically from the phrase "targeting both" is that he wants one or the other, not that he's set on acquiring both of them, at the same time OR separately.
    9 nov. 2023 à 20 h 45
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    Why would we help toronto?
    9 nov. 2023 à 20 h 54
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    Quoting: KingofRnR
    Clearly you value Timmins and late 1st Round Picks more than I do. It’s not unreasonable, but given the clear interest and demand for Tanev, that gets beat easily


    I dont think it gets beat easily. I was simply setting a standard expectation. Value varies on demand. I would not be surprised if he gets a better return, but I would bot be mad with this return
    9 nov. 2023 à 20 h 55
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    Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
    Why would we help toronto?


    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    picked a team 20M+ deadline cap space and probably aren't selling. Could be Detroit, Columbus, Winniepeg, Nashville, Anaheim, Chicago, whatever. It's a free asset for virtually nothing I dot see it as any different from Minnesota helping facilitate 2 trades last deadline


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    9 nov. 2023 à 20 h 56
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    BC Treliving is targeting both... As stated by multiple sources... So why make two separate trades with the same team within a few weeks?


    Thats not true at all. The sole source is Friedman and thats not what he said. Go listen to the podcast
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    9 nov. 2023 à 21 h 5
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I dont think it gets beat easily. I was simply setting a standard expectation. Value varies on demand. I would not be surprised if he gets a better return, but I would bot be mad with this return

    Yeah sure, it’s better than nothing and letting Tanev walk to Free Agency, right!? C’mon what’s the matter with you!?

    I’m still holding out to see what we can get from EDM = Higher Pick + Replacement Player in Ceci maybe and a Former Top Prospect in Broberg or better yet, Holloway maybe!? Perhaps we send them a Pick or Greer or something to balance it out, but let’s not settle for less than we have too
    9 nov. 2023 à 22 h 33
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    Quoting: KingofRnR
    Yeah sure, it’s better than nothing and letting Tanev walk to Free Agency, right!? C’mon what’s the matter with you!?

    I’m still holding out to see what we can get from EDM = Higher Pick + Replacement Player in Ceci maybe and a Former Top Prospect in Broberg or better yet, Holloway maybe!? Perhaps we send them a Pick or Greer or something to balance it out, but let’s not settle for less than we have too


    I really don't think you understand the purpose of this post. This is supposed to be a standard value return that os more about the cost of double retention and not offloading Klingberg. This is not about what I am hold out for or being greedy for
    10 nov. 2023 à 7 h 51
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    The only thing that you can infer linguistically from the phrase "targeting both" is that he wants one or the other, not that he's set on acquiring both of them, at the same time OR separately.


    Tanev AND Zadorov
    10 nov. 2023 à 7 h 52
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Thats not true at all. The sole source is Friedman and thats not what he said. Go listen to the podcast


    Oh really?
    10 nov. 2023 à 11 h 23
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98


    Thank you for sharing a link that literally backs up exactly what I said
    10 nov. 2023 à 11 h 23
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98


    Lol nhl trade rumours is not a source 😂
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    10 nov. 2023 à 13 h 45
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Thank you for sharing a link that literally backs up exactly what I said


    "Suggesting there is talk surrounding the Calgary Flames and the Toronto Maple Leafs, he noted that the Leafs might be keenly interested in both Nikita Zadorov and Chris Tanev." (Friedman)

    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Lol nhl trade rumours is not a source 😂


    But Friedman is...
     
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