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Whats Their Worth

Créé par: TheLand
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 26 oct. 2023
Publié: 26 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Obviously there would be retentions and maybe 3 way deals and probably extension talks when trading. Don't take too seriously it's just my thought that CGY needs to stop retooling and just go for the rebuild. Get Macklin Celebrini
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CGY
  1. Lundeström, Isac
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Kadri could fetch us a high 2nd and a low 3rd or a ,id player like Lundestrom
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Vladar, Daniel
Détails additionnels:
Not a whole lot but it's something
3.
CGY
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
PHI
  1. Hanifin, Noah
Détails additionnels:
Top end talent or a 1st with a 2nd and possibly a low end prospect or pick
4.
CGY
  1. Hakanpää, Jani
  2. Harley, Thomas
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Tanev, Christopher
Détails additionnels:
Tanev could fetch a good haul in a low end D and young NHL talent and a possible pick
5.
CGY
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Ceulemans, Corson
  3. Fix-Wolansky, Trey
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Lindholm, Elias
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
Lindy would bring us everything we need for a rebuild in a first and NHL ready talent with a top end prospect and a mid prospect
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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 34
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No way you’re getting a return like that for a 33 year old making 7 million until he is nearing 40 man
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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 34
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Based on Kadri's performance last season, and his contract, nobody's paying for him without retention.
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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 36
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Lindholm or Hanifan to PHI would work (if PHI can get a re-sign in place), but I dont think you're getting Frost, a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for either one of them.

Partly because PHI will have high picks and partly because Frost put up 46 pts on a team that couldn;t score, is young and cheap.

A more balanced offer is either Lindholm or Hanifan for frost, 2024 FLA 1st and 2024 CBJ 2nd or 2024 PHI 2nd, and maybe a midlevel prospect of need (RD? Ronnie Attard maybe) because PHI has all the risk of getting a resign in place.

As for Tanev, (who DAL cant afford) if they offered Harley alone, CGY woul;d/should jump at that.

Vladar porobably doesn;t get a 3rd back, unless somebody is desperate for a goalie

And if you keep Kadri at 1C, with those other moves, thats a pretty good start for a mini rebuild
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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 40
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Lindholm or Hanifan to PHI would work (if PHI can get a re-sign in place), but I dont think you're getting Frost, a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for either one of them.

Partly because PHI will have high picks and partly because Frost put up 46 pts on a team that couldn;t score, is young and cheap.

A more balanced offer is either Lindholm or Hanifan for frost, 2024 FLA 1st and 2024 CBJ 2nd or 2024 PHI 2nd, and maybe a midlevel prospect of need (RD? Ronnie Attard maybe) because PHI has all the risk of getting a resign in place.

As for Tanev, (who DAL cant afford) if they offered Harley alone, CGY woul;d/should jump at that.

Vladar porobably doesn;t get a 3rd back, unless somebody is desperate for a goalie


Yeah Philly isn’t trading 1sts it straight up doesn’t matter unless ur a top 5 player in the league Philly isn’t trading a 1st for them this year
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26 oct. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Cbj have to accept I think. (Assuming the jackets keep playing decent hockey and are fighting for a playoff spot.)
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26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: Friendly_Cannon
Cbj have to accept I think. (Assuming the jackets keep playing decent hockey and are fighting for a playoff spot.)


Agreed. Only thing I’d add is we should probably add a roster F going to CGY as well. Maybe send them Rosy or something.

And he’d come with an extension, obviously.
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26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 34
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Kadri might be worth that to a team who needs a 2C. Needless to say, that's not Anaheim.

It'd be a hard sell to move him without retention for very much. Boston might be an interested party this off-season, but Kadris going to need to need to show some signs of life or people are going to think this is age related regression.
26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 40
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I think you’re spot on on all except that tanev trade under selling on him for sure he brings a first back all day long
26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: dopplsan
Agreed. Only thing I’d add is we should probably add a roster F going to CGY as well. Maybe send them Rosy or something.

And he’d come with an extension, obviously.



Lindholm and a 3rd would be enough for Roslo, Bean, Fix-wolansky, Ceulemons and a 1st 2025?
26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 56
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Dallas isn't going to be in a position to move Harley. Cool, we are able to strengthen the right side of our blue line for the rest of the year, but losing the best LD they currently have (Miro has been playing RD) makes them significantly weaker on that side & given Harley's age it hurts Dallas a TON long term. If the Stars make a play for Tanev, Harley will not be part of the deal. They'll part with a forward, prospect, or draft pick.

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I think you’re spot on on all except that tanev trade under selling on him for sure he brings a first back all day long


Harley is better than the 1st Round Pick they'd get from Dallas. That's not an undersell at all.
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26 oct. 2023 à 13 h 58
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Dallas isn't going to be in a position to move Harley. Cool, we are able to strengthen the right side of our blue line for the rest of the year, but losing the best LD they currently have (Miro has been playing RD) makes them significantly weaker on that side & given Harley's age it hurts Dallas a TON long term. If the Stars make a play for Tanev, Harley will not be part of the deal. They'll part with a forward, prospect, or draft pick.



Harley is better than the 1st Round Pick they'd get from Dallas. That's not an undersell at all.


Okay I’d just never really heard of him but he sounds like he has promise it’s kinda like lily you see all kinds of lily for tanev half retained but lily is worth vastly more than our first round pick this year so why spend more then you have to
26 oct. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Dallas and Philly definitely scoff at those asks. Yikes.
26 oct. 2023 à 14 h 43
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Lindholm and a 3rd would be enough for Roslo, Bean, Fix-wolansky, Ceulemons and a 1st 2025?


Yes? At least from our perspective.
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26 oct. 2023 à 16 h 2
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There were rumors of Kadri to Anaheim when he was a free agent, there’s a reason why they pulled out of the race for him.
26 oct. 2023 à 17 h 57
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Lindholm and a 3rd would be enough for Roslo, Bean, Fix-wolansky, Ceulemons and a 1st 2025?


Assuming he comes with an extension, yes.
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