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Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 8 h 57

Sujet: Scorey And The Thrill To Fix Our Putrid PP

Shea has no real value (26 yr old rookie who is meh?), and Carter is a fairly big cap dump, 38 yrs old, 1 pt in 15 games, so you're not getting anything of value for those 2 without throwing in a 2nd or 1st (3.5mil in carters cap hit) and even then not getting a solid player back.

But I love the "in for a penny, in for a pound" approach of getting almost every ancient player in the league for Pittsburg, thats bound to work out. You realize its not 2013 right?

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 48

Sujet: the Nylander delema

hahaha, 1 year deal for less than 60% for what matthews gets? Hes a UFA, he'll walk instead of taking that insulting deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 7 h 17

Sujet: Hanifin and Walker

Its not a bad deal for CGY, lot of futures, but throwing reaves in there is a bit mischevious.

Not sure Ovichnikov has any value (he ran away from NAmerica last year and PHI is laden with far better forward prospects) and Walker probably gets more than a 3rd TWO drafts away and a 5th

Does scare me a bit to see a team moving prospects and almost all of their picks for 3 years, admitting they need two top 4 defenders, and have 11 free agents to sign when then have half the cap (43mil) already committed to just 4 players.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 7 h 14

Sujet: Do the thing

Probably about right.

While I really have doubts on Abruezze carrying any value, a 1st and a 3rd is about right for Tanev at 50%.

It would help on the defensive side, but limits any offense from the blueline. I do think at some point TOR need to figure out if liljegren is only going to be a 3RD, then deal him if his value is near Sandins AND whther Timmins can provide offense and be sheltered on 3rd pair.

But not sure if the goaltending takes them far, woll has fallen off since the first 5-6 starts

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 12 h 17

Sujet: Leafers Playoff Bound Squad

PHI says no thanks. A struggling UFA goalie, a 33 yr old bottom 6 winger add what to the deal for them?

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 12 h 16

Sujet: jab phl

All those are bad for PHI.

Sanheim with any long term retention, they way hes playing right now is probably two 1sts alone, but taking campbell when we already have cal petersen? Thats like 3 1sts and a bit more.

Koneckny is worth more than that, especially as the picks aren;t both 2024 and DAL picks will be late in the round, another 1st is probably needed

Laughton is worth a 2nd and 3rd. Ryan OReilly was playing poorly, often injured, an expiring UFA and he got a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Certainly Laughton isn;t the force Reilly WAS, but O'Reilly was having a horrible year and a UFA

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 10 h 29

Sujet: My moves up to and through TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Leafs don't need or want Monahan for the price of a 1st... Maybe for a 3rd, but not a 1st</div></div>

He probably gets a 2nd and a bit more if he can stay healthy and produce, easily.

However, its a 1st and 3rd because the picks are THREE drafts away and leafs dont have a 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 10 h 18

Sujet: Senator McDavid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TCMonkey</b></div><div>Kubalik was strictly to balance out the cap exchange and he's an easy piece to move at the deadline for a pick. I could see Pinto being required instead of OR in addition to Boucher. Fair point.</div></div>

About right I think, jarventie and pinto are huge upgrades on Boucher, maybe throw in one of thomsson or JBD. To be fair its the reset EDM needs (besides moving Campbell)

Forum: Fauteuil - DG22 nov. à 10 h 6

Sujet: 2 years great team

The chances of all those prospecvts hitting is zero, you'll be lucky if half develop into expectations

The chances of those ridiculously cheap RFA and UFA signings is zero

And the entire lineup looks kind of soft and non physical

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 10 h 3

Sujet: Senator McDavid

not a bad thought, but I dont think you're getting away with Kubalik and Boucher in that offer, maybe one of pinto or jarventie instead of boucher

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 9 h 47

Sujet: Bored

Just an ugly offer to ANA, you could probably add Mailloux and roy and still be turned down

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 9 h 4

Sujet: Walker is a good fit

Maybe not enough, Ovichnikov isn;t much more than a midlevel prospect, and probably a non factor in PHI deeper system.

A mid round 3rd isn;t enough and Ovichnikov doesn;t add enough.

Sure Walker is having a good run, but he can play LD/RD, always a solid defender capable of top 4 minutes, good vet and team guy.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 6 h 54

Sujet: Old Fashioned 1

Some are okay, but some are just TOR clearing house and placing value on players/prospects who have very little. Just not sure its not quantity that these teams will want

The Seeler deal isn;t bad, but why would PHI want Benoit? He really adds nothing to the deal for them, and they'd probably want a 2024 5th, not 2025.

McMann and Holmberg collectively dont carry much value in the ARZ deal
Kampf and Reaves probably have no interest to CBJ and are possible negatives to the deal (they dont need a 4C)

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 6 h 47

Sujet: Logical targets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Yeah you might be right, I just figure it's better to give the perception of a alight overpay to avoid looking biased and show what's realistically possible.</div></div>

I think theres a big issue with Klingberg though: hes defensively horrible with an injury history, TOR can't/won;t retain on him, only contenders needing an offensive RD would place any value on acquiring him. The only teams with cap space are not contenders, and would have to rely on him staying healthy and productive on a bad team, THEN have to retain on him hoping to get back a 3rd and 5th MAYBE from a contender, so theres really no value to a non contender to grab him. PHI has the cap space, but no need for Klingberg and they have 3 other UFA dmen already to move at the TDL, with only 2 retention spots. So moving Klingberg might cost TOR a 3rd (or maybe more).

A deeper deal to PHI could work, where TOR gets Walker for Klingberg and a 3rd and ? Or does TOR stop pursuing the blossoming Nylander resign? I saw an ACGM of interest where Nylander AND Klingberg go to PHI for Tippett, Frost, Walker and a 1st, which frees up 5mil and gives extra trade/draft capitol to address other issues, but I dont know why PHI would do that

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 6 h 39

Sujet: Lindholm and Tanev

Probably not enough from BOS.

Kuntar and Steen dont carry alot of value and the picks being in 2025 and 2026 definitely lessen it. Lindholm at 50% for Geekie, Lycksell, the 2025 1st and 2026 2nd is very close to a pretty good offer CGY will take though, or even without geekie.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 6 h 36

Sujet: Logical targets

In the interest of going "cheap".

Seeler can be had for a 4th and 5th over the next 2 drafts, Peeke probably similar if not slightly cheaper, unless you want retention (they might 50% retain if its a 3rd and 5th)

PHI and CBS will want picks, and not players back, but PHI hasn;t LTIR'd Ellis yet, (with almost 8mil in cap space), and might be a good spot to dump Klingberg (they wont have any value attached to him though)

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 4 h 20

Sujet: If we still had Reino

Why would PHI want Comrie and Oloffsson? They have negative value to PHI, so your offer doesn;t get Hart and Koneckny.

You should just roll it back and keep Eichel and O'Reilly too

Forum: Armchair-GM22 nov. à 4 h 16

Sujet: Treliving steals the D-Core he already built

McMann at 26-27 yr old rookie, who's already been demoted back to AHL has value to CGY? Abruese is a 24 yr AHL guy, who has what value to CGY? CGY already has a dozen of these types, younger and with higher upside in NHL and AHL.

A 3rd in 2026, THREE drafts away is worth what in 2024?

Theres not enough value for CGY for them to give you both dmen and take back a cap dump in Klingberg, especially as they've used 2 of their 3 retention spots. Based on them taking Klingberg and you splitting the picks over 3 yrs, I think you might get Tanev alone, (especially CGY just lost 6 mil in cap space, that they dont have)

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 11 h 48

Sujet: 2nd Line

Frost and Seeler for Girard

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 45

Sujet: defence possitbility

MINNE maybe, the other two teams decline strongly

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 44

Sujet: If Theres A Sale We Better Buy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chapee44</b></div><div>Too much or too little?</div></div>

too little.

Krebs while young and coming off a great year, is having a horrendous start to 2023-24 and IMO is a bottom 6 guy, not top 6.
The 1st is TWO drafts away

Not enough for a first pairing, young, producing RD signed cheaply for 3 years

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 16

Sujet: If Theres A Sale We Better Buy

Not even close in value for CGY

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 13

Sujet: Nylander gets the Johnny Gaudreau contract

You're also ignoring the fact that cap structures are also relevant to the team, so that Nylander should get just 60% of what Matthews is getting, or what Marner will get?

Hes worth 10.5 or more anyday of the week, but I'm pretty certain you cant get him to sign for a paltry 60% of what Matthews is getting.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 11

Sujet: Fixing this team after last night

Over reaction.....

and probably underpayment for those 2 and retention on both

Forum: Armchair-GM21 nov. à 10 h 9

Sujet: Klingberg LTIR

Im not saying Zadorov is getting a 1st, but you're dreaming or listening to Ridiculous rumours if you think 24 yr old, non prospect Abruese and a mid round 3rd is enough if CGY is retaining

Or that klingberg goes on LTIR for the rest of the year

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