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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 22 oct. 2023
Publié: 22 oct. 2023
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 14
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    In no way would the Wild give up the player with the higher ceiling even if Pinto has shown more in the NHL thus far
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 15
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    In no way would the Wild give up the player with the higher ceiling even if Pinto has shown more in the NHL thus far


    Rossi is a risk. He hasn’t shown much. Pinto had 20 goals as a rookie and projects to be a 2 way 2C . Who knows what Rossi will be at this point. He’s a risk
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 17
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    I think this is too high risk for Minnesota to hope that Rossi doesn’t reach his potential.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 18
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    In no way would the Wild give up the player with the higher ceiling even if Pinto has shown more in the NHL thus far


    the guy who scored 20 in his rookie season vs the guy with 2 points in 26 games. wild would be stupid to say no.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 19
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    Rossi is a risk. He hasn’t shown much. Pinto had 20 goals as a rookie and projects to be a 2 way 2C . Who knows what Rossi will be at this point. He’s a risk


    NHL fans have got to let go of rossi. dudes a reclamation project.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 22
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    Quoting: csick
    Rossi is a risk. He hasn’t shown much. Pinto had 20 goals as a rookie and projects to be a 2 way 2C . Who knows what Rossi will be at this point. He’s a risk


    Doesn’t matter Rossi has a higher ceiling and Minnesota has the time to wait and hope that he pans out. Pinto isn’t even playing hockey rn lol.
    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 24
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    Doesn’t matter Rossi has a higher ceiling and Minnesota has the time to wait and hope that he pans out. Pinto isn’t even playing hockey rn lol.


    At the rate both players have developed, this is just false beyond belief. Pinto has done more in one season than in the 3 Rossi has been trying to generate some sort of an impact. People keep talking about Rossi's ceiling as if that ship hasn't already sailed.

    "The wild need to hope he pans out", or the player who has already panned out.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 15 h 40
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    No need to get rid of Kasty so soon. DJ loves him and he'll be better. If he were to get traded though, I'd bet Calgary would pay a 4th for him.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 4
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    In no way would the Wild give up the player with the higher ceiling even if Pinto has shown more in the NHL thus far


    Pinto is a 2-3c already, Rossi hasn't even stuck yet. Even if he does, his ceiling has dropped, lower than Pinto anyway
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 16
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    Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
    Pinto is a 2-3c already, Rossi hasn't even stuck yet. Even if he does, his ceiling has dropped, lower than Pinto anyway


    Ur entitled to ur opinion
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 29
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    I couldn’t care less about ur opinion.


    Then get off CF. Yapping away in threads as if everything you say is 100% true is why nobody likes you lmfao. Read the room any time you post something.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 29
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    Rossi has been great this year. Wild easily pass.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 30
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    Quoting: Caerii
    Rossi has been great this year. Wild easily pass.


    1pt in 5 games and a -2 is amazing.
    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 31
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    Quoting: dougford
    1pt in 5 games and a -2 is amazing.


    Oh neat, a stat watcher
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 31
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    1) Minnesota is hoping that Rossi breaks out. They wont move him.
    2) Don’t think they will move a Potential 1st liner for a solid 2C
    3) They are literally working with 70M in cap because of the Suter-Parise buy out and Rossi at 800k for the next 2 years is going to be way more helpful than Pinto at 2.6M for the next 2 years.
    4) They still believe in him
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 32
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    Quoting: Caerii
    Oh neat, a stat watcher


    That's usually how a player performs, by stats, yeah.
    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 33
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    Quoting: dougford
    That's usually how a player performs, by stats, yeah.


    Oh okay, cool

    So anyway, Rossi has been great this year, Wild easily pass
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 33
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    Quoting: Caerii
    Oh okay, cool

    So anyway, Rossi has been great this year, Wild easily pass


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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 34
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    Quoting: dougford
    tears of joy


    Watch the games bud, you won't come off looking so ignorant next time
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 34
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    he has in fact been playing very good. Stats don’t show everything
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 38
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    Quoting: future_gm
    he has in fact been playing very good. Stats don’t show everything


    And with Boldy out, maybe hes going to get more minutes and bigger roles
    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 38
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    Quoting: PhilsWeiner
    NHL fans have got to let go of rossi. dudes a reclamation project.


    Dude missed a full year due to sickness, has been pretty good in the AHL the last 2 seasons and hasn’t gotten a legit NHL shot yet at 22 but he’s a reclamation project?

    Pinto played 17 games in the NHL before his breakout last season. Rossi played 21 NHL games before this season. Let’s wait and see what he does this season before claiming he’s a reclamation.
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 38
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    Quoting: future_gm
    he has in fact been playing very good. Stats don’t show everything


    Quoting: Caerii
    Watch the games bud, you won't come off looking so ignorant next time


    Quoting: dougford
    That's usually how a player performs, by stats, yeah.


    I'm kind of on the side with @dougford

    Rossi hasn't done a whole lot of anything productive in the 26 games he's played. Has he looked decent so far? I guess? But to compare him to a player who just scored 20 in his rookie season would actually be criminal. He doesn't have that 1C pedigree he once did years ago when he was drafted. He still could be a decent middle 6 player, but Pinto has a higher ceiling while being an effective 2/3C... while Minnisota is still hoping Rossi can be that
    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 40
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    Quoting: GMDannyB
    I couldn’t care less about ur opinion.


    Quoting: GMDannyB
    Ur entitled to ur opinion


    It's OK to be bold when correct, not correct to always be bold
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    22 oct. 2023 à 16 h 40
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    Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
    Pinto is a 2-3c already, Rossi hasn't even stuck yet. Even if he does, his ceiling has dropped, lower than Pinto anyway


    Rossi 21 NHL games before this season after missing a full year due to sickness. Pinto had 17 games before last season. Your just claiming Pinto’s ceiling is higher because he’s a year ahead of Rossi.
     
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