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Marchenko For Hanifin

Créé par: TheLand
Publié: 26 août 2023 à 23 h 23
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hanifin, NoahFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 923 387 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bean, JakeBlue Jackets de ColumbusIR-2 320 788 $011---0000--
Marchenko, KirillExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-920 027 $011---0000--
Ceulemans, CorsonExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusCBJ)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial-213 333 $214363369
Variation1 682 572 $022010
Final1 469 239 $ (↑)2145 (↑)65 (↑)37 (↑)9000

Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusBlue Jackets de Columbus

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bean, JakeBlue Jackets de ColumbusIR-2 320 788 $011---0000--
Marchenko, KirillExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusLNH-920 027 $011---0000--
Ceulemans, CorsonExempté du ballottageBlue Jackets de ColumbusMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (Logo de Blue Jackets de ColumbusCBJ)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hanifin, NoahFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 923 387 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial4 729 167 $2144623612
Variation-1 682 572 $0-2-20-10
Final3 046 595 $ (↓)2142 (↓)60 (↓)35 (↓)12000
27 août 2023 à 0 h 4
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with CGY having brought in Provorov and Severson, I don't see as CBJ as a Hanifan landing spot.

Although i think they could be interested in Lindholm, Can't see them parting with Marchenko tho.
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27 août 2023 à 1 h 11
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
with CGY having brought in Provorov and Severson, I don't see as CBJ as a Hanifan landing spot.

Although i think they could be interested in Lindholm, Can't see them parting with Marchenko tho.


Lindholm isn't available. If he does become available Marchenko alone wouldn't get him. It'd take more like Johnson or Sillinger + Marchenko + pick.
27 août 2023 à 9 h 4
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Lindholm isn't available. If he does become available Marchenko alone wouldn't get him. It'd take more like Johnson or Sillinger + Marchenko + pick.


I wouldn't rule out Calgary moving Lindholm, might be during the regular season, but if things don't improve and he wants out/to test FA, I don't think moving him is off the table.

also the team trading for him would probably opt for a return of draft picks rather than prospects. Teams rarely trade their top prospects. The return will also probably be semi disapointing at first glance due too him being a rental with UFA control.
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27 août 2023 à 10 h 5
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Lindholm isn't available. If he does become available Marchenko alone wouldn't get him. It'd take more like Johnson or Sillinger + Marchenko + pick.


Johnson for Lindholm straight up would be an overpay. It's silly to think it would take 3 more high quality assets on top of Johnson to get that deal done lol.
27 août 2023 à 10 h 46
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Johnson for Lindholm straight up would be an overpay. It's silly to think it would take 3 more high quality assets on top of Johnson to get that deal done lol.


Wrong Johnson alone doesn't get Lindholm. BTW that's 3 assets not 4 it was Johnson OR Sillinger not both. Also I didn't say what round the pick was in, that'd be negotiable depending on if Calgary is getting Johnson or Sillinger.
27 août 2023 à 11 h 15
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Wrong Johnson alone doesn't get Lindholm. BTW that's 3 assets not 4 it was Johnson OR Sillinger not both. Also I didn't say what round the pick was in, that'd be negotiable depending on if Calgary is getting Johnson or Sillinger.


W/e. Any add to Johnson is ridiculous and KJ and Marchenko would be off the table if the Jackets were even interested in Lindholm. Nobody is giving up players like them for the back half of Lindholm's career.
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27 août 2023 à 11 h 50
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W/e. Any add to Johnson is ridiculous and KJ and Marchenko would be off the table if the Jackets were even interested in Lindholm. Nobody is giving up players like them for the back half of Lindholm's career.


You talking about Johnson and Marchenko as if they're untouchable superstars is what's ridiculous.
27 août 2023 à 12 h 3
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You talking about Johnson and Marchenko as if they're untouchable superstars is what's ridiculous.


Not true in the least. They're just not on the table for the back half of the career of a guy who is going to be getting wildly overpaid. Pretty simple stuff, but I understand if you have trouble following along.
27 août 2023 à 13 h 24
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That's a steal for CGY.

Would you as a Flames fan trade Coronato/Wolf + Kylington/Zadorov + Zary/Pelletier + 4th(Kylington/Z have more value than Bean) for one year of Hanifin?
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27 août 2023 à 15 h 0
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That's a steal for CGY.

Would you as a Flames fan trade Coronato/Wolf + Kylington/Zadorov + Zary/Pelletier + 4th(Kylington/Z have more value than Bean) for one year of Hanifin?


For Hanifin yeah sure but not for Lindholm with an extension.
27 août 2023 à 15 h 6
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Not true in the least. They're just not on the table for the back half of the career of a guy who is going to be getting wildly overpaid. Pretty simple stuff, but I understand if you have trouble following along.


Wildly overpaid would be little johnny and Laine not Lindholm at around 9 mil/yr.
27 août 2023 à 15 h 7
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Quoting: MoxNix
Don't be ridiculous obviously it only happens with an extension.


When I see those trades to a destination like Columbus I ask myself why would Hanifin extend there? After the Tkachuk trade, we as Flames fans completely overvalue the worth of an extension. We're selling 1 year of a player that likely wants to test the free agent market. If Hanifin has Columbus circled as his only destination, then why wouldn't they just wait a year? It's not like they're contending right now.

I don't see us getting any top prospects in a trade this off season. B prospects, 1st round picks, and salary back is what I would expect if we're selling. Otherwise, a strict hockey trade.
27 août 2023 à 17 h 31
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Columbus has Werenski and Provy already. This Hanifin to CLB thing was made up as clickbait nonsense.
27 août 2023 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: MoxNix
Lindholm isn't available. If he does become available Marchenko alone wouldn't get him. It'd take more like Johnson or Sillinger + Marchenko + pick.


You’d be lucky to get Johnson straight up for Lindholm. If he’s traded it’ll be for something similar to Horvat, maybe with a prospect a bit better than Raty
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27 août 2023 à 21 h 38
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You’d be lucky to get Johnson straight up for Lindholm. If he’s traded it’ll be for something similar to Horvat, maybe with a prospect a bit better than Raty


Dream on. Johnson isn't a number 1 center you just hope he'll become one eventually. Lindholm is a proven number 1 center in his prime. That's a huge difference. Now if we were talking about a real blue chip prospect like Fantilli or Beniers you might have a point.
28 août 2023 à 18 h 21
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Awesome trade!! Go for it Flames!!
28 août 2023 à 21 h 18
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Lindholm isn't available. If he does become available Marchenko alone wouldn't get him. It'd take more like Johnson or Sillinger + Marchenko + pick.


No chance CBJ does that. Sillinger could be available, but neither Johnson or Marchenko is being moved. (esp for a guy that's gonna be $9M). Those are both special players, who will be on good contracts for the next few years. I see both topping Lindholm's career highs.
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