Come on.

Stan Bowman don’t work here anymore.

Comment of the day! Strike that. Comment of the year!

Shouldn't it be Fantilli going to Chicago?

Biggest trade ever? You must forget that Gretzky was traded in his prime 😂

Haha! I actually had this same thought go through my head when making this



As far as value of pieces traded, this one is bigger.

What don’t you like? Other than the fact it is a complete fantasy scenario that would obviously never happen because it’s too risky for both sides...

Value wise, I think it’s pretty even, but I would be happy to hear what you might feel needs to be changed.

CBJ are giving a lot, and it’s certainly a high risk move for both sides, but imagine that Bedard pans out and is the next generational player in the NHL, and having him and Fantilli down the middle for the next 15 years. I’ll wait while you go change your pants.

to get a closer trade to the getzky one, it probably would be jiricek, fantilli, 3 first round pick unprotected and (whatever is the equivalent of 15m?) would you do that trade? if the answer is no, then what you are offering right now is probably less than the gretzky trade value wise!

For Gretzky vs. for Bedard:
Carson (2OA pick) = Laine (2OA pick)
Gelinas (7OA pick) < Jiricek (6OA pick)
3 late 1sts < Johnson (5OA), Sillinger (12OA) and a ‘24 1st
$15m < taking Jones $9mx7 and sending back a great contract, leader and centerman in Jenner.

Conclusion: Gretzky deal < Bedard deal

the big thing i disagree is the carson part, age wise fantilli is way closer to to carson than laine. laine was a second overall 7 years ago as opposed to 2 years for carson.

Fair argument but they aren’t that far off. Both had 50 goal potential. Carson really dropped off after his first three years. Yes he was younger at the time of the trade with huge upside, but I’d say Laine has equal upside even if he’s older, he’s still only 25.

Even if you give that comparable slightly to Carson because of his age at the time of trade, I think the aggregate still comes out in favor of being greater for Bedard due to Kent Johnson and Boone Jenner being included. Every other comparable besides Carson/Laine outweighs the Gretzky trade.

yeah, could be more in the end. I was just trying to come up with a comparable that his as close to the gretzky trade as possible. at the time Carson was seen as one of the best prospect in the game. Dont think people will talk about laine as a prospect anymore. 5 years ago it would have been perfect for him for sure!

I've gotta think any Bedard to CBJ deal this off season starts w/ Fantilli, Jiricek and a 1st.

Intriguing....

It would obviously take a massive haul to get Bedard, but I can't see Jenner being part of it, or Jones coming the other way. Fantilli, Jiricek, and a 1st, probably more. The issue isn't sacrificing the future, it's sacrificing a few potentially elite pieces for one potentially generational piece. I'm not sure that's a wise decision in today's NHL, where even the best players only play 25-30 minutes a night.

I think if it were to happen, the trade would have had to have happened at the draft, before those picks turned into the actual players. If you're trading Jiricek, 3OA, next year's first, etc. for 1OA, that's one thing. Once you put faces to those picks and get them into the organization, it's way harder to justify a trade.

Sure, but there is also Jiricek and Johnson here, who are two of the best prospects in the league right now. The side by side comparison is as for value sake, if you still just want to look at future upside and youth, this trade has that also with Jiricek Johnson, Sillinger and the unprotected pick - which still has a chance of being high since our top two centers (albeit are studs) are rookies.

I wouldn’t trade Fantilli. Dead stop.

This is as close to a legit trade as I think could be made for Bedard. Yes losing Jenner is incredibly painful, and taking back Jones is a big risk, but reuniting him with Werenski is probably a better situation for him than any other