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Josh Anderson and grit

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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 juill. 2023
Publié: 28 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Anderson, Josh (2 200 000 $ retained)
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 2
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Normally I'd just be in this thread to dump on Josh Anderson but that is genuinely a terrible deal for the Habs
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 5
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Habs laugh their azz of that one
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 5
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You know nothing JS
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Only 4 more years of saying NO to TML's fans trying to trade for Anderson retained.
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 10
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Habs retains money for four years and Leafs are the one who gets the pick?
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 11
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Only 4 more years of saying NO to TML's fans trying to trade for Anderson retained.


LOL lets stop pretending its leaf fans when its habs fans most of the time
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 12
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Quoting: Shaquille_Oatmeal
Habs retains money for four years and Leafs are the one who gets the pick?


habs get the better cheaper player so you have to pay
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 14
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leafs decline both deals
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
habs get the better cheaper player so you have to pay


Why would a rebuilding team give up a high Draft pick + waste a retaining spot for four years just to get a minimal upgrade?
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Shaquille_Oatmeal
Why would a rebuilding team give up a high Draft pick + waste a retaining spot for four years just to get a minimal upgrade?


doesnt make sense for a rebuilding team, just explaining why the habs would have to pay
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
leafs decline both deals


honestly I agree. I was just curious on how high montreal view there players
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 46
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So in essence, you want grit but you don't want to pay for grit.

No money, no Josh Anderson. Happy April 2024.
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 53
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Excerpt from The Athletics about Josh Anderson:

He’s a commodity in low supply, and the demand for the commodity remains high.

“Playoff hockey is still heavy hockey,” that scout said. “The standard drops, it just does. And he can help you play heavy hockey.”

We saw that from Anderson in the 2021 playoff run, most glaringly in the first round against the Toronto Maple Leafs. At one point in that series, the Maple Leafs defencemen — Jake Muzzin in particular — started just getting rid of pucks that were dumped in their zone. They had enough of Anderson coming in with a head of steam and ruining their lives, one hit at a time.


Ref: https://theathletic.com/4176740/2023/02/10/montreal-canadiens-josh-anderson-trade-deadline/
28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Excerpt from The Athletics about Josh Anderson:

He’s a commodity in low supply, and the demand for the commodity remains high.

“Playoff hockey is still heavy hockey,” that scout said. “The standard drops, it just does. And he can help you play heavy hockey.”

We saw that from Anderson in the 2021 playoff run, most glaringly in the first round against the Toronto Maple Leafs. At one point in that series, the Maple Leafs defencemen — Jake Muzzin in particular — started just getting rid of pucks that were dumped in their zone. They had enough of Anderson coming in with a head of steam and ruining their lives, one hit at a time.


Ref: https://theathletic.com/4176740/2023/02/10/montreal-canadiens-josh-anderson-trade-deadline/


written by a Habs writer.....lol
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 56
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You were still sleeping when you dreamt up that deal. I suggest you keep on sleeping
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28 juill. 2023 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
written by a Habs writer.....lol


He was quoting a scout
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28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
He was quoting a scout


what scout because from the looks of the article its from Arpon
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
what scout because from the looks of the article its from Arpon


Read it
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28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Read it


I did, the dumping pucks in part was not from the scout, he also quoted another scout

“He’s a complementary part, so if you have a good team, that’s great; he can complement those good players,” the scout said. “But paying $5.5 million for that? That’s a hell of a complementary part … If he was on my team, it’s not as if I’d be disappointed. But I’d also be wondering how much of that money he’s taking up could be used better elsewhere.”

which you decided to leave out
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28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
I did, the dumping pucks in part was not from the scout, he also quoted another scout

“He’s a complementary part, so if you have a good team, that’s great; he can complement those good players,” the scout said. “But paying $5.5 million for that? That’s a hell of a complementary part … If he was on my team, it’s not as if I’d be disappointed. But I’d also be wondering how much of that money he’s taking up could be used better elsewhere.”

which you decided to leave out


The complementary part comes at a price my friend

Do you have a good team?
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
The complementary part comes at a price my friend

Do you have a good team?


that line is pretty much what every person on this site says, hes a 3rd liner making too much money, and habs fans lose their mind every single time.
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
He was quoting a scout


I could found the footage of it but the article describes exactly the action on that footage. A game against the Sabres last year. Anderson was drilling Dahlin all game long. At some point tou clearly see Dahlin gave the puck up in the corner just to not be hit by the Anderson express. Also Anderson can score goal he is near the 20 mark each year. Might be overpaid but still a very very useful players.
Not sure why all the hate around here. Start to remain me the Lehkonen situation where people thought they would get him for a 3rd round pick.
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28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 13
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
LOL lets stop pretending its leaf fans when its habs fans most of the time


I almost never see habs fans trading Anderson. When they do it’s in a troll post. On the other end, Leafs fans always make trades for Anderson that are extremely loopsided in Toronto’s favor
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
that line is pretty much what every person on this site says, hes a 3rd liner making too much money, and habs fans lose their mind every single time.


No one arguing that Anderson is overpaid. The point is Anderson is a very good hockey players and he is not by any mean a cap dump since every single GM would take Anderson on their team. Probably not at 5,5 but that doesn’t change what he brings on the ice.
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 19
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I almost never see habs fans trading Anderson. When they do it’s in a troll post. On the other end, Leafs fans always make trades for Anderson that are extremely loopsided in Toronto’s favor


Toronto doesn’t have anything that would make Hugues pull the trigger on a Anderson trade. I only see a trade if Mtl get a top prospect, just like they did with Lehky.
28 juill. 2023 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
that line is pretty much what every person on this site says, hes a 3rd liner making too much money, and habs fans lose their mind every single time.


This is a correct take, Anderson is a 3rd liner who can put up 20 goals and play fast and heavy. Unfortunately he’s paid like a top 6 player, which knocks down his value.

but what everyone seems to forget is that if MTL retains salary (like here for example $2.2mil for 4 years) Anderson should no longer be considered overpaid, and suddenly should be worth his weight in gold for what he brings on a value contract (here again for example $3.3mil for 4 years).
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