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Créé par: V1nny83at5_F1am35_GM

Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2023

Publié: 20 juill. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Calgary Flames off-season trades
Reasons for trade: Ottawa gets upgrade at defence, Calgary can use Brannstrom as experiment and and RFA option.
Columbus trade: Johnny Gaudreau gets reunited with Elias Lindholm, even though they lose Sillinger, Fantilli is on the way.
Boston trade: less plausible, Boston gets their future goalie in Dustin Wolf while Vladar is temporary backup and Backlund is veteran forward to fill the void potentially left by Bergeron. Calgary can get their platoon of Markstrom and Swayman, Trent Frederic is another fixture in the top 9 forward group.
To Ottawa: Noah Hanifin
To Calgary: Eric Brannstrom, Tyler Kleven, conditional 2nd round pick 2024 (will turn to 1st round pick if Senators make 2024 NHL playoffs)
To Columbus: Elias Lindholm
To Calgary: Cole Sillinger, luca Del bel belluz, 3rd round pick 2024, and conditional 2nd round pick 2026 (will turn to 1st round pick if Columbus makes 2026 NHL playoffs)
To Boston: Mikael Backlund, Dan Vladar, Dustin Wolf
To Calgary: Trent Frederic, Jeremy Swayman, Jake Debrusk, conditional 2nd round pick 2026 (will turn to 1st round pick if Boston makes both 2024 and 2025 NHL playoffs)
RFA signings:
-Trent Frederic $2.5 million for 3 years
-Jeremy Swayman $4.5 million for 6 years

Lineup after trades
Huberdeau/Kadri/Pelletier (~18.5)
Debrusk/Sillinger/Coronato (~6)
Mangiapane/Sharangovich/Frederic (~12)
Coleman/Dube/Duehr (~8)
Weegar/Andersson (~10.8)
Kylington/Tanev (~7)
Brannstrom/Zadorov (~6)
Scratches: Oesterle, Gilbert, Ruzicka
Swayman/Markstrom (~10.5)

I’ll preface by saying that I’m no longing pressuring Conroy to make these moves right now. By deadline, there should be some effort made to reshape the team as needed. The mission: don’t screw up like Treliving last time. I hope Conroy can negotiate a big return for these players.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Sergeev, Arsenii		3	825 000 $

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Frederic, Trent		3	2 750 000 $
Swayman, Jeremy		6	4 500 000 $

Transactions

CGY

Brännström, Erik
Kleven, Tyler
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)

Détails additionnels:

2nd round pick is conditional and will turn to 1st round pick if Senators make 2024 NHL playoffs

OTT

Hanifin, Noah

CGY

Del Bel Belluz, Luca
Sillinger, Cole
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

2026 2nd round pick is conditional and will turn to 1st round pick if Columbus makes the 2026 NHL playoffs

CBJ

Lindholm, Elias

CGY

DeBrusk, Jake
Frederic, Trent [Droits de RFA]
Swayman, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

2nd round pick is conditional and will turn to 1st round pick if Boston makes both 2024 and 2025 NHL playoffs

BOS

Enfoui

Kevin Rooney: 150 000 $ (1 300 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	77 163 333 $	0 $	1 700 000 $	6 336 667 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Huberdeau, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 8	Kadri, Nazem 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C NMC UFA - 6	Pelletier, Jakob 863 333 $863 333 $ AG RFA - 1
DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Sillinger, Cole 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C RFA - 1	Coronato, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 2
Mangiapane, Andrew 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Sharangovich, Yegor 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Frederic, Trent 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Coleman, Blake 4 900 000 $4 900 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 4	Dubé, Dillon 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AG, AD, C RFA - 1	Duehr, Walker 825 000 $825 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Weegar, MacKenzie 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Swayman, Jeremy 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ G RFA - 1
Brännström, Erik 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD, AG RFA - 1	Zadorov, Nikita 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 1	Oesterle, Jordan 925 000 $925 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Huberdeau, J.		Kadri, N.		Pelletier, J.
	Sillinger, C.		Weegar, M.

Avantage numérique 2
DeBrusk, J.		Sharangovich, Y.		Coronato, M.
	Mangiapane, A.		Andersson, R.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Coleman, B.	Dubé, D.
	Brännström, E.	Tanev, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Frederic, T.	Duehr, W.
	Zadorov, N.	Andersson, R.

20 juill. 2023 à 2 h 21

LPProductions

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that boston trade is horrendous for the bruins. Debrusk>Backlund, Frederic>Vladar, Swayman>Wolff and you throw in a 2nd? what are we doing here

20 juill. 2023 à 2 h 23

princessTom

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Quoting: LPProductions

that boston trade is horrendous for the bruins. Debrusk>Backlund, Frederic>Vladar, Swayman>Wolff and you throw in a 2nd? what are we doing here

they obviously misclicked Lindholm and Hanafin for Backlund Vladar and Wolff

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20 juill. 2023 à 4 h 21

tupty

Good nerd

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I've seen a lot of these posts about the Flames. Your situation sucks, and I genuinely feel for you all. Guys have stated that they don't want to re-sign, but your GM can't get proper value on his assets because the market sucks. That explains why you all got peanuts on the Tiffoli deal.

You've also gotta think about what these trade partners value and how desperate they are. Boston absolutely needs a long term 1C or 2C, but they are not desperate for one this year. Backlund doesn't meet the long-term part of the equation either. There is no way they throw away their best young assets for a 35 year old center unless they think it puts them over the top. Those players are better off either on the team, or being used in a trade for someone who better meets their needs.

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20 juill. 2023 à 6 h 38

FartButtIII

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Ottawa is already LD stacked (Chabot, Sanderson, Chychrun, Brannstrom) No need to trade for one year of Hanafin.

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20 juill. 2023 à 7 h 7

ON3M4N

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How is Boston giving up the 3 best players and still having to potentially give up a 1st Huh?

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20 juill. 2023 à 8 h 6

Claesson4Norris

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Hanifin isn't more than a rental in Ottawa, and Ottawa isn't moving Branny and Kleven for a rental. Both have long term value to Ottawa

20 juill. 2023 à 8 h 42

SK101

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Overpayment for lindholm

20 juill. 2023 à 9 h 25

Gofnut999

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Boston gives up 4 valuable pieces for 3 lesser pieces that they don’t want or need.

Seems legit. 🙄

21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 54

Real_MC_Hockey

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And besides Del Bel Belluz, Ottawa also adds Bel Biv Devoe

21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 57

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Quoting: Gofnut999

Boston gives up 4 valuable pieces for 3 lesser pieces that they don’t want or need.

Seems legit. 🙄

Wow, you know nothing about the Flames players (Backlund makes all linemates better, score a lot, and always finishes high in Selke votes, while Vladar is a proven backup) and apparently don’t know Dustin Wolf was goaltender of the year for 2 years straight in the AHL and just previously goaltender of the year in WHL for 2 years consecutively. Congratulations on your major ignorance

21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 58

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Quoting: ON3M4N

How is Boston giving up the 3 best players and still having to potentially give up a 1st Huh?

Bae cause they are not, and do some research fool

21 juill. 2023 à 0 h 59

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Real_MC_Hockey

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Quoting: tupty

Two guys have stated they won’t re-sign and one traded, the rest is unconfirmed and you need to listen to precisely what is said about them

21 juill. 2023 à 1 h 0

#13

Real_MC_Hockey

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Quoting: jlteebo

Ottawa is already LD stacked (Chabot, Sanderson, Chychrun, Brannstrom) No need to trade for one year of Hanafin.

Hanifin is upgrade on at least 3 of your left D. They would obviously resign him

21 juill. 2023 à 1 h 48

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Debrusk is 7.5 years younger than Backlund while providing pretty much equal scoring. Debrusk > Backlund

Frederic is again a touch younger than Vladar and will actually be contributing every night to the lineup instead of the 20-30 games a year Vladar would play. Frederic > Vladar

Swayman is only 2.5 years older than Wolf and has been putting up real high quality numbers rather than just being a theoretically good NHL goalie like Wolf. Swayman > Wolf

Maybe you need to deal with your own ignorance.

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21 juill. 2023 à 2 h 19

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tupty

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Two guys have stated they won’t re-sign and one traded, the rest is unconfirmed and you need to listen to precisely what is said about them

Um... so are you saying I shouldn't have empathy for Flames fans and everything is all good? Not sure what your angle is. But this is what I get for trying to be nice on the Internet.

21 juill. 2023 à 7 h 2

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Wow, you know nothing about hockey in general other than being a massive homer.

Unlike you i actually follow every team and player and am not a shill. I don’t need their resumes.

Reality:

Both Debrusk and Swayman > Backlund.
Both > Wolf
Every piece > Vladar. Who B’s had for 6 years, we know him well.

And again…Boston does not WANT or NEED any of those 3.

That is reality. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Don’t bother replying. I won’t see it. You are going on the ignore list. I have tried multiple times but it is impossible to have a legit conversation with you due to your ignorance and homerism. The only thing you seem capable of is attacking anyone who does not worship all things Flames. Quite frankly it’s tiresome, boorish, and foolish.

Have a great life.

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21 juill. 2023 à 7 h 23

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Hanifin is upgrade on at least 3 of your left D. They would obviously resign him

He has no value in comparison to what they have and what's coming. A redundant part that would need to play on the off wing.

This trade proposal can kick rocks.

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21 juill. 2023 à 10 h 35

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Bae cause they are not, and do some research fool

Trust me I did and it confirmed my initial reaction. Its funny you tell me to do research but in another post you claim "Backlund always finishes high in Selke votes"

Can you define what high is because a quick look and he's finished Top 10 just 3 times in his career. In his 13yr career he only received Selke votes in 6 seasons. So for over half his career he's never recieved a Selke vote....but he "always finishes high in the Selke votes" as you say Huh?

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21 juill. 2023 à 15 h 14

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Quoting: tupty

Um... so are you saying I shouldn't have empathy for Flames fans and everything is all good? Not sure what your angle is. But this is what I get for trying to be nice on the Internet.

I appreciate it but the negativity (by media and fans) is very overdone. With out-to-lunch coach we only missed playoffs by 2 Points

21 juill. 2023 à 15 h 20

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Real_MC_Hockey

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Quoting: dk325

Thanks, you proved your ignorance by using points and basic stats only. I am not engaging with such ignorance

21 juill. 2023 à 15 h 22

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Real_MC_Hockey

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Yes, Backlund was only full time NHLer in his 5th year roughly. Please send my what websites you used, maybe our local FAN960 radio host is exaggerating when he said 7 times on air.

21 juill. 2023 à 15 h 22

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Quoting: jlteebo

He has no value in comparison to what they have and what's coming. A redundant part that would need to play on the off wing.

This trade proposal can kick rocks.

LMAO ok then

21 juill. 2023 à 15 h 53

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21 juill. 2023 à 16 h 56

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ON3M4N

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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey

Yes, Backlund was only full time NHLer in his 5th year roughly. Please send my what websites you used, maybe our local FAN960 radio host is exaggerating when he said 7 times on air.

Hockey Reference

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21 juill. 2023 à 17 h 34

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Quoting: ON3M4N

Hockey Reference

Yea thanks found it a bit later! So Backlund had Selke votes in 6 (not 7 years) and was top 13 in 5 years, not too shabby! I do like DeBrusk quite a lot, but he’s as 3rd liner RW on our team as we have multiple wingers who play the right side (Mangiapaine and Dube likely RW1) and Matt Coronato is likely to play 2nd line because the Flames need to keep him moreso as scorer, not checker. Backlund overall has more value for the next 2 years likely….due to 2-way play mainly, ability to make linemates better, and is the best *possibly available* replacement for Bergeron or Krejci. It’s too bad the Western Conference gets so little viewership from out East or more Boston fans would know what I mean (while you seem reasonably on top of it)

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