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Créé par: Bdawwwgy1
Équipe: 2023-24 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2023
Publié: 11 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Pickering, Owen
  3. Rutta, Jan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
top 8 protected
PIT
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
2.
SJS
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Martinook, Jordan
  3. Trikozov, Gleb [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
CAR
    Karlsson 3.5M retained
    3.
    SJS
    CAR
      based the trades off of

      - young roster player (POJ, Drury)
      - good, but not great prospect thats about 1-2 years out (Gleb, pickeing)
      - cap (martinook, ruuta)
      - protected first and a second
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2024
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de NJD
      Logo de VGK
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de NJD
      2025
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de PIT
      Logo de CAR
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de WPG
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de WSH
      2026
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de SJS
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2683 500 000 $75 864 167 $25 000 $850 000 $7 635 833 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      800 000 $800 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
      AD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      775 000 $775 000 $
      AG, C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      AD, AG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
      925 000 $925 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      825 000 $825 000 $
      DG
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
      918 333 $918 333 $
      DG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      762 500 $762 500 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Sharks de San Jose
      2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
      AD, C
      RFA - 1

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      11 juill. 2023 à 12 h 57
      #1
      All-Team Pylon
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      Pens can't do that, need cap going out
      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 1
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      Neither team can do this. They both need more cap going back the other way.
      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 3
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      If The Pens pay that for a 33yr old Injury Prone RHD w/ a NMC & both Team & Player want a Trade.....

      THEY WOULD BE INSANE
      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 7
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      Quoting: Sidstick87
      If The Pens pay that for a 33yr old Injury Prone RHD w/ a NMC & both Team & Player want a Trade.....

      THEY WOULD BE INSANE


      Quoting: Sidstick87
      If The Pens pay that for a 33yr old Injury Prone RHD w/ a NMC & both Team & Player want a Trade.....

      THEY WOULD BE INSANE


      Quoting: Sidstick87
      If The Pens pay that for a 33yr old Injury Prone RHD w/ a NMC & both Team & Player want a Trade.....

      THEY WOULD BE INSANE


      It’s Erik karlsson he just won the Norris…
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      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 8
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      24 1st and 4th 25 2nd 26 3rd POJ Petry and Granlund
      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 18
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      If I am Grier, I'd take the Pens deal. But its close.
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      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 26
      #7
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      Pittsburgh IMO.
      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 38
      #8
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      Quoting: Coleharborcrosby
      It’s Erik karlsson he just won the Norris…


      His last good season before 2023 was 2019 and he is signed for four more seasons. The risk is very high for the new team.
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      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 47
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      SJ is flooded with LDs so not sure they have interest in LD prospects, but the ones being sent are quality so maybe it doesn't matter, just throwing it out there that they'd probably be looking for RDs or decent forward prospects. Both these returns are decent though but PITs is better
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      11 juill. 2023 à 13 h 53
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      Quoting: Coleharborcrosby
      24 1st and 4th 25 2nd 26 3rd POJ Petry and Granlund


      yeah, that's probably fair if SJ will only retain ~20%, but doesn't matter because no way Petry doesn't have SJ listed on his no-trade.
      11 juill. 2023 à 14 h 17
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      Quoting: pens1991
      Neither team can do this. They both need more cap going back the other way.


      Canes would be trading Pesce in this scenario, as well as Kotche starting in the A

      Pens could add Granlund or petry but they would have to throw in something like a third
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      11 juill. 2023 à 14 h 30
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      Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
      Canes would be trading Pesce in this scenario, as well as Kotche starting in the A

      Pens could add Granlund or petry but they would have to throw in something like a third


      Yeah, Kotche to the A will still i think reflect some cap hit on the big team, but even in that scenario that leaves the canes with 19 players and the need for another LW and C. I'm not sure what their farm system is like but regardless they'd have to add a couple more guys, would be very close. (still not sure what's happening with TDA as that sounded set in stone).

      I think Carolina's biggest issue is that the have Skjei, Pesce, Aho, Teuvo, Jarvis, Necas all up next summer, and obviously everyone's aware Pesce is probably getting traded, but I would bet they want to keep the rest of those guys and that's gonna be $$.

      Also not trying to be bias at all here, because I think the canes have a really great roster but if i'm them and getting EK means they lose out on like two of those guys next season, i'm not going for EK. I'd rather keep the cap to make sure I can resign Skjei, Aho, Jarvis and Necas, maybe Teuvo is odd man out but i'd rather the stacked depth than EK. Like if it was the penguins in that situation id rather they pass on EK to be able to sign those guys.

      Either way I just don't see it happening this summer given the cap dance the Pens and Canes need to do, unless the sharks agree to eat more or some third team magically appears lol.
       
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