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doublem24

DoubleM24
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Forum: Armchair-GM 8 avr à 14 h 25
Sujet: Ducks fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The only guy I can see us trading Comtois for is John Marino. Both are exempt from the expansion draft.

We firmly believe that Max Comtois is our future Jake Guentzel. He's certainly our best current chance at a #1 LW. That's why we're so loath to trade him.</div></div>

I was curious where Comtois sat with Ducks fans.

From an outsiders view, it's hard for me to solve between the outlooks of Comtois, Steel, Tracey and Jones. Zegras and Drysdale are the standouts and the other 4 hover around the same spot in my brain... mind you, it's with a very macro perspective.

The Guentzal comparison is really interesting, I never thought of that. I perceived Comtois as a heavier, less cerebral player, but I think it's a totally valid take.

I'd love for Pitt to target Max Jones... what do you think the price for him is? I remember talking with you before about which pieces Anaheim would be looking to acquire from Pitt, I don't think they add up well as Pitt doesn't have much that would move the needle for the Ducks.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 mar à 10 h 14
Sujet: Deadline Theory 20 - Roast Me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>We said No to Pettersson last time when the price was lower, purely on the basis of fit plus the fact that we'd have to expose him or Kale Clague (or both, now that we've acquired Brendan Lemieux) in the expansion draft. Why would we say Yes when the price is raised?</div></div>

I agree that the fit isn't there; I'm just using LA as example of what Pitt may get in return if they move him. The original price of a 3rd and a 4th seems more realistic to me, but at that point keeping him might be the better option. Ultimately, the goal is to get his salary off the books for next year, potentially add a piece for this year or hold a medium/low value future asset (Mid Round pick).

It seems like a pretty tall task to move him given his performance over the last 2 season. His AAV and term are right in the middle of being overpaid or perfectly paid.

All that to say, it doesn't seem like he really moves the needle, which may make this whole thing invalid.

Burke and Hextall have both made comments that they are looking to add but I wonder if Pitts recent performance is lowering the need. They may be finding solutions for the bottom 6 by giving a few of their AHL guys a chance due to the injuries they've sustained.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mar à 17 h 11
Sujet: Deadline Theory - Roast Me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Burke and Hextall have basically said they want to add a physical bottom 6 player. I think Glendening is on their radar and wouldn't be shocked if they picked him up. I think Bobby Ryan is too, because of the familiarity with Burke.

They have come out and said Legare and Poulin are off the table, so that basically eliminates a lot of younger high end talent to pick up. I think they just add a more physical bottom six guy.</div></div>

Yea, that's exactly how I reached this as a potential option.

Maybe Virtanen isn't the best choice, but I think Detroit would get more by doing two seperate deals for Glendening and Ryan. Not sure what to expect but either option doesn't seem wildly off base.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mar à 13 h 53
Sujet: Deadline Theory - Roast Me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brgh4life</b></div><div>Glendening is so limited offensively I see his return around the same as Nick Cousins from last season which was a 4th. You can hype up his defensive play as much as you want but he is a UFA on the wrong side of 30. GM's aren't going to rush in and waste assets on that.
Virtanen is too much of a gamble to trade for. He makes a good bit more in actual salary next year than his cap hit shows, so teams probably aren't lining up to pay bigger dollars for a project like that. Plus, as a contending team you are better off getting something more proven to place into the lineup.
Also, I don't see Pettersson as a mid season trade. The amount of injuries we have had leaves me to believe that no one on that D is getting moved.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>they won't move MP.

They don't trust POJ there. He was getting benched at the end of his stint.</div></div>

Yea, Pitt is definitely in a rough spot.

If they were going to add, what do you think their approach would be?
Forum: NHL Trades30 aoû 2020 à 10 h 42
Sujet: (TOR/PIT) - Kapanen, Åberg, Lindgren for 2020 1st, Rodrigues, Hållander, Warsofsky
The more I think about this trade the more it stands out as a clear Toronto win, but if I look it as a two year plan for Pittsburgh, I can see how JR rationalized it.

To be clear, this is essentially like polishing a turd, but if you look at Pittsburgh's contracts, they have a strong group put together for at least 2 more years. It's not necessarily the best way to build a championship team with a 10 year window, but it feels like ownership is seeing it through with JR. As a Pens fan I hope it works, because if they don't get a deep run out of the next two years they've given up WAY too much. Their revenue will drop and they won't spend to the cap.

If the next two years go sideways I don't expect Malkin to be incentivized to resign and to me, that's the first concrete mark of the end of the era. What's happening now is just the beginning.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 aoû 2020 à 11 h 32
Sujet: Return of the Staal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yojimbo</b></div><div>Staal, Fleury for Murray, Joseph, Bjugstad ($1M ret)

This is near troll level.

A few hours ago someone posted Staal, Reimer, Fleury for Murray, Bjugstad, Simon and it was a no from Pittsburgh. You removed Reimer, replaced Simon with Joseph (making it considerably worse for the Pens), and added $1M retention on Bjugstad. You took a bad trade for the Pens and made it much much worse. Joseph should not be anywhere near this trade. The retention is on the wrong side.

Rutherford wants to get younger.

Staal will be 32 next month. His offense is less than Bjugstad's (especially when considering time on ice). $6M
Fleury is basically Ruhwedel, only left handed.

Using the players that you put in:
Staal ($2M ret), Fleury for Murray, Bjugstad
Joseph is out, fully. This still isn't that great of a trade for Pittsburgh other than it solidifies the 3C.

Maybe even go with Trocheck instead of Staal.</div></div>

This trade isn't that far off and yes, it was in reaction to the previous post about bringing Staal back.

I don't think suggesting it and asking questions for how it could work is trolling, but... ok.

Bringing in Staal at the end of his career isn't that far off base. I think he would shine in a 3rd line roll despite being pretty expensive. The best parts of Staal's game are defensive and he's masterful on the faceoff. Isn't that exactly what Pitt needs? A center who can establish possession, kills penalties and matches up against top lines so Crosby and Malkin can exploit mismatches?

The salary retention is for 1M and it's for one year, pretty straight forward. Pitt will have to move salary to bring him in and I don't think they have long term plans for Bjugstad. I agree that Staal's value is declining but 2M retained on their side is 6M total, so that seems very unrealistic to me.

Also, I'm all for removing the prospect, that'd be great for Pitt, but it seems like Carolina fans are saying Staal is worth more than you're giving him credit for and I agree.

Do you think this is realistic?

Staal for Murray and Bjugstad.

If not, do you think Carolina needs to retain salary? Send a pick back? I'd be interested to hear what Carolina fans think of that too.
Forum: Armchair-GM28 aoû 2020 à 11 h 24
Sujet: Return of the Staal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claebom</b></div><div>Sens decline. Retained, he brings zero benefit. The best and only thing he offers is that he can bring back a sweetener as a cap dump. If he's no longer a cap dump, he's just a bad player signed for too long. Why would they intentionally want a bad player on their roster? That's for JR to deal with.</div></div>

Fair point.

My perspective is that there are a few options for what can be done with JJ.

1. Nothing - sadly this seems like what will happen

2. Trade - nobody wants him, because he's terrible. If they trade him, they have to give up an asset and most likely retain salary. Of course the team who gets him isn't going to use him, he's terrible, but trades like this happen a lot. The asset that's given has to create the balance. The value of the asset can decrease with the less salary thats transferred (retention). So, the question is, how high does the asset value need to be? Seems like a 2nd or 3rd round pick is the only option Pitt has.

3. Buyout - highly unlikely, Pitt has never done this and it would be elongating the period of cap penalty. This is the main reason for trading him away with retention, you hold a penalty but its tenure is much shorter.

With all these options understood, I think a trade with retention is the best and only plan for how to handle JJ. Of course the team is he's going to isn't gonna value him, he's terrible, but if they have the ability to do it and gain an asset it's not completely pointless.