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DoubleM24
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Forum: NHL Signings5 juill. 2022 à 17 h 24
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Casey DeSmith (2 Years / $1,800,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sidstick87</b></div><div>A 30yr old Goalie that had a break out season at 28, then 2 injury prone, up &amp; down seasons....

We just gave a #3 Goalie $1.8m Per.... Sooo Bad</div></div>

Agreed - the injuries are the biggest concern, but really - who cares when his breakout season was?

Isn't it more relevant to ask what can he provide and what's it worth?

Are his career stats what you would expect to see from a decent back up? I think so.

I know it sounds like I'm defending this signing as if it's a bulletproof plan, which it's not, but I'm just wondering - what are the better options? Holtby or Halak?

The only thing I can think of is Fleury at $2M - but I gotta think he's gonna get more than that somewhere else.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 13 h 17
Sujet: If we dont win this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>I think it was premature to re-sign Carter. Especially when we need more youth in the lineup. I just think the goal should be to do what is best to win another cup. It would have made fans happy and boosted ticket sales bringing Fleury back, but they didn't do it last offseason. I just don't think the right approach is to say rebuild in x amount of years for the front office. They should go year by year, see how the playoffs shake out, and then determine because things can change quickly.</div></div>

That's a fair assessment and I agree with a few of those points. You definitely have to take it as it comes and assess in real time. I was hoping the Carter contract would be a lower hit, but I do think he brings a lot to the team. Stanley Cup winner, playoff experience, position versatility, locker room leadership, blah blah blah. I know Pittsburgh isn't stocked with young prospects, but I bet the first year NHLers enjoy having a wiley vet in there to give em some atta boys.

Having said that, I think Pittsburgh's situation is unique in the sense that Crosby has 3 years left on his deal and he just secured his 17th straight PPG season. They owe it to him as much as anything to try to be competitive as long as he's there.

Also, you're right about Fleury, that would have made fans happy, but it would have cost them future assets, which by holding, help their approach towards the future. They can get him next year as a UFA if they really want him, I have a feeling he wants to end in Pittsburgh.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2022 à 12 h 58
Sujet: If we dont win this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>Yeah I mean thats a fair point. I don't think we're stuck with all of them, Kapanen Heinen are RFA's so they shouldn't be that tough, I'm sure Canucks would take Marino, but Carter and Zucker will be tough. Blows my mind we gave Carter an extension, not that he's bad but I think he's like 38 and we're nearing a rebuild. It's going to be a challenge, would've been easier trading pending UFA's at the deadline, but better to start then put it off.</div></div>

I think the Carter extension is an indicator that the front office doesn't see the window as closed just yet. They have to have confidence in being able to bring Malkin and Letang back.

There is clearly going to be a rebuild, but it looks like they're planning to do it at least 2 or 3 years from now - right?

Also - not to go all Billy Businessman, but I have to think another goal is to keep fans happy. Malkin and Letang being career Penguins, potential playoff runs for two more years - that's huge for ticket sales and extra revenue.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 mars 2022 à 18 h 27
Sujet: Chicago Blockbuster Before The Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>

Letang has said “he thinks he can play forever”. He wants 5 yrs at 7M per according to “his representation”. Hextall/Burke don’t want to go 5 years. They want 2-3 year extension. They are far apart on the term. Not the AVV.

Letang-I’d say they settle 4 years 7.5M per. That’s pretty far from your 8.5M AVV and “his representation” saying they want 5 years 7M per.

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Thanks for all that context; I think the biggest sticking point for forecasting what will occur with Letang is based on total dollars.

If he wants 5 x7 [35M] and Pitt wants to offer a max of 3 years, I believe that would drive the cap hit up dramatically. That would come out to 3 x 11.66M. Obviously that's a ridiculous figure and the the nature of a negotiation.

I hope they land on a healthy middle ground, but if the term were 3 years, that 8.5M figure seems pretty reasonable right? He'd be taking 10 million less to sign that deal, which also seems pretty absurd.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48
Sujet: Penguins keep 58 71 and 17
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I have no idea what they do with RW next year. there are options, but truth is, Hextall has found steals in production. Heinen, McGinn.
So I'm not surprised if he goes out the box there.
Dumo is even worse than Rust. He'll be 32 going into that deal. But at least at 32 he knows no one is going to sign him to 39.
It could be they let him walk. Really hard to replace a 1LD. But they may go MP, Matheson, POJ on the LD.
Because Dumo is probably getting paid in the 6-7 range.</div></div>

Yea, that's what I was thinking - he's gonna want 6 to 7M.

I think that line up of LD you listed could work - always hard to say so far out.

It'd be great if they could hit on some future draft picks like they did with Letang and Guentzal .
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2022 à 16 h 17
Sujet: Penguins keep 58 71 and 17
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>eh, a 1LD is more important than a RW.

Teams build down the middle.

I don't think your take here is really solid.
Fact is Rust is gonna get 7 years. Just like Hyman who was 1 year younger did.
You can say the extra years don't matter, but come on. Especially on a guy who's injured a lot.
I like Rusty he's a good player but when the deal comes at 6x7, they should move on.</div></div>

I see your point and also see how the the end of the deal will most likely look like nonsense.

My thought process is - Rust gives them the best chance to win a cup in the next three years. I don't know how they extend the winning window much further past that no matter how you cut it. I think a 6 x 6 deal is a general baseline for what he'll get. You're right though, it's not unreasonable to suggest he'll want a 7th year.

Also, what are the alternatives for next year if not Rust? (I'm literally asking, not trolling) It feels like they should go with the devil they know in Rust, instead of bringing someone in to see how they fit.

Maybe a better question is - what does Dumo's next contract look like? Because he'll essentially be in the same position as Rust, around 30 years old looking for a pay day.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2022 à 15 h 40
Sujet: Penguins keep 58 71 and 17
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Lol. I always wanted a Zohorna/Boyle/Angello line. Or Zohorna/Carter/Angello. Or last year Zohorna/Gaudreau/Angello. Just for the size. But I like your idea better. Nichushkin might get more than 3M per though.

Although, I’m betting Rust gets 5.5(same as Hyman), Geno 7.5M, Letang 7M, Heinen 2-2.25M, Erod 1.75M-2M. ZAR-1.75-2M, Kappy-3M-3.25M.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I think they are going to let Rust walk at that point.

This team has too many cap issues next year to do that.
Jarry, Dumo, and Blueger are all due the year after.
Frankly, that is going to have more of an impact on the team than Rust.
At 30, we got the best years out of him. I don't think anyone can deny that. If the cost is 6 x 5 he'll probably be gone.
I'm ok with that, as long as we can resign Jarry and Dumo. As a 1LD and a solid goalie are much harder to find.</div></div>

I think they can keep the most valuable pieces of this roster together, starting this offseason with Malkin, Rust and Letang.

Trying to find a player like Rust on the open market is going to cost more than whatever he asks for this season. Who cares if he has negative value at the end of his deal? That's just the way it is.

I do think it's important to consider Jarry, Dumo and Blueger the following seasons - but I don't think they're positioned nearly as well unless they get Malkin, Rust and Letang resigned.

Having said that, I think Malkin is the main factor on positively positioning the team to stay together over the coming years. I don't expect a massive discount from him, but even a 1M to 2M difference in cap hit could retain Dumo.

Anyway, lots of conjecture - the point is they have to succeed in roster construction this year before you can project their team the following season - and that starts with Malkin, Letang and Rust.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 août 2021 à 1 h 4
Sujet: If Malkin And Letang Are Willing to Take BIG Discounts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fil97</b></div><div>yeah right..... you don't follow hockey do you?</div></div>

It's not about what Malkin has done in the first 15 years of his career, it's about what centers who are over 35 years old should be responsibly paid.

7 Million per season is a lot, especially over a 3 year span - that's not even considering his recent injury history.

I'd imagine him doing a deal in the 16M to 18M dollar range - probably over a three year span. That has his cap hit in the 5.33M to 6M range.

Final thought - as of today, Malkin has the 6th highest career earnings in league history. A 16M deal would move him into 4th. All that to say, I think he already made all the money he needs. He may just want to finish his career in Pittsburgh.