Can’t see Nash moving Lauzon. Him and Schenn are the only guys we have who can thump and clear the crease. If we did, probably a 3rd or something close to it.

At minimum a second for Savard (Given that Montreal retains half), and before I get told that's too much, Savard is:
A cup winning vet
Consistent 20 points bottom 2 pairing defensemen
Very physical while still defensively minded playstyle (Very useful to a team that needs grit plus D-man who can log in lots of minutes defending in the D zone)

Think about it like this, for half retained, MTL traded Edmundson at half retained for a 3rd and a 7th, Savard is right handed so raises his own value there, and has put up slightly more points then Edmundson.

I can imagine that the asking price for Pesce from Carolina is prob Jarnkrok and a 1st. I could be wrong and they want more but as a starting price I'd say thats good

If Savard has value due to his cup winning pedigree, then so does Murray.

Don't really see the Blues trading Bortuzzo. He's worth more to them than whatever mid-late rounder they'd get for him.

Who's saying he doesn't? The problem with Murray is the size of his contract, his ability to stay healthy, and finding a team that needs him.

Savard being a stanley cup winner is only a part of what makes him valuable to the Leafs, at half retained he's on a fantastic contract for a team that needs cap relief, and gritty defenseman to compensate for the two offensive defensemen they have in Rielly and Klingberg

The problem with Savard is he's terrible now. Whether he's healthy or not. Murray when healthy is atleast still good

Savard is playing on a bottom ten team in the hardest division in the league, and doing that two years in a row he's put up two 20ish points seasons, he's not exactly fallen off in the last two years.

Why are you targeting RD when you do have: Brodie, Klingberg, Liljegren seems OK to me.
I think you should add on the LD

Peace would cost Nylander
Zadorov wouldn’t cost very much. Jarnkok and a third
Savard cost a second w/o retention, a first w/
Bortuzzo won’t cost more than a third
Lauzon is tricky. I could see him go for a second

Points from him don't matter, getting totally caved in, in his zone is the problem.

Savard is a great reliable d-men who is ask to play minutes he wouldn’t be supposed on a contending team. He was great with Tampa bay because he was ask to play in is limit.
There will be team that will get interested in him by the deadline due tu is contract situation and the fact that he play the right side and he have Stanley Cup experience.

Fantastic contract? lmao

It's a 2nd with no retention

The problem is that Toronto doesn't have the cap to take his full contract, if retaining adds a pick that's perfectly understandable.

A great reliable defenceman......when sheltered down the lineup because he can't be counted on vs the oppositions best. Oh cool

Pesce is nowhere near good enough to get Nylander. A 60 point winger would be a good return for Pesce, a 40 goal nearly 90 point top line force is way more valuable.

Habs don't need more meaningless pics when they have a loaded prospect pool as is, trading Savard half retaind within the division simply isn't worth it, paying him to play against us for 2 years makes no sense

Normally yes, but that player want 10m on his next contract while Pesce want probably 7. Cap Space is valuable

Valuable yes, not valuable enough to bridge that gap in quality between the two.

There's a middle ground somewhere, I just don't know where it is lol

Leafs fans will say Pesce and Jarvis for Nylander and Canes fans will say, "You're crazy if you think you're getting Jarvis too! Canes are HIGH on Jarvis, won't ever happen"

Canes fans will say exactly what you did, Nylander for Pesce straight up is worth it to save the cap space down the line. But the chasm between the two in value is too large for that to happen.

I think most realistically would be like Pesce, Teuvo and a pick of some sort for Nylander and a later pick. Granted it would need to come with Pesce and Nylander both extending and Carolina retaining a decent amount on Teuvo which would be a tough pill to swallow.

Maybe something like Pesce and Necas for Nylander+ but even that I think is too rich for Carolina fans to swallow either and likely not worth it considering how close in points to Nylander Necas was for like $m less. I don't know the answer but it sounds like both sides will not be happy with wherever the middle ground is haha

Nylander is closer to being a 10 million dollar player than Pesce is to being a 7 million dollar player. Nylander has scored the 22nd most goals in the past 3 seasons and 23rd most points. Guess how much everyone else in that range makes? 9-10 million. Nylander is going to get around 9.5 * 8 and deserve it.

Calgary has already been down the Jarnkrow road - don't see that working - would rather play Zads to the TDL and if he plays like last year he would fetch a 2nd no problem!

Everyone else in that range, huh? Let's see...


#18 - Connor - 7.1M
#19 - Zibanajad - 8.5M
#20 - Marchand - 6M
#21 - Kane - unsigned
#22 - Guentzel - 6M
#23 - Pavelski - 3.5M
#24 - Willy
#25 - Ovechkin - 9.5M
#26 - Tavares - 11M
#27 - Aho - 8.5M
#28 - Scheifele - 6.1M

So not nearly everyone in that range, and pretty much everyone in that range has also done more than Willy has (or is wildly overpaid, causing part of Toronto's cap problems ahem).

there is an easy fix for this, Willy wants 10 million, if he becomes a ufa he gets 10 x 7 = 70 million

leafs give him 8.75 x 8 = 70 million

8 mill in bonuses - 750K during season.

both sides get what they want willy gets the same amount of money and leafs get him under 9.