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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Switcharoo

So many Habs fans do not understand the conditions of that pick - they all think they are getting Calgary's top 10 1st rounder next year.

But the way it works is if CGY picks in the top 10 next year (pretty much a certainty considering they are this year, and that was with Lindholm, Tanev and Hanifin) and FLA is not in the top 10 (again pretty much a certainty) then MTL gets the FLA pick.

So in short MTL is getting the FLA pick next year not the CGY pick! So stop trying to trade us a pick that we are already going to have!!!

Forum: Fauteuil - DGlun. à 17 h 20

Sujet: realistic summer draft

After CGY trades Markstrom this summer they are practically guaranteed to end up in the top 10 for the 2025 draft class and MTL will be getting the FLA 1st. Why would we ever trade the 9th OA pick to secure FLA's 1st next year for Justine Barron???

Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 17 h 11

Sujet: Full Markstrom Cap Hit

hahahaha 6M for Zadorov - have you ever even watched him play?

Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars à 14 h 24

Sujet: its a buyers MARKet

Buyers Market only works for UFAs - not for top players with 2 years of term yet!

Absolutely no reason to sell low on Marky right now!

Forum: Armchair-GM7 mars à 16 h 49

Sujet: my ideal last trade All in be aware

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LAKANDTOR348</b></div><div>how do you think about the overall package though like is this something that they could maybe revisit just for Anderson in the off-season? I know it’s very unrealistic but in terms of the package is that OK? Be aware that brodie and gregor won’t have to be in this trade in the off-season. It was just for cap purposes now.</div></div>

If Calgary were to ever entertain moving Andersson it would be in a hockey trade for a top 6 centreman (similar to Mitts / Byram trade yesterday).

The value above is probably there but it doesn't fit Calgary's needs

Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. à 17 h 16

Sujet: Salary retention

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaun80</b></div><div>New Jersey is paying a 1st for the retention, maybe you can add another later pick if you think it's needed. In hind site yeah trading a 1st to move Monahan wasn't the best move, but at the time it was. It was basically trading a 1st for Nazem Kadri. Even if we didn't trade him away I doubt we would have resigned him last off season after he was injured again. So we wouldn't have been the team flipping him for a first this year.</div></div>

If the 1st is for the retention and taking on Vanacek then I certainly don't think Holtz for Markey straight up is anywhere near enough from our perspective. Would probably need to be Holtz & Bahl or an additional 2nd to make it palatable.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. à 16 h 30

Sujet: Salary retention

Without the retention this trade is in the ballpark - I think NJ would need the first to be their 2025 pick as it would most likely be in the 20-32 range next year.

However everyone on this site drastically underestimates the costs associated with retention. You want Cgy to take back Vanacek @ $3.4M for another year <strong>and</strong> retain $4+M on Marky.

Consider Calgary had to pay a 1st for MTL to take Sean Monahan for 1 yr @ $6M ( granted this was one of the dumbest things Treliving ever did). Why on earth would Calgary take on @ $7M of salary back without proper compensation.

The issue isn't that Calgary won't do retention - Conroy has simply made it know he ain't gonna do it for free!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 17 h 56

Sujet: 23 24 Flames TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>That might be the most ridiculous Noah to Boston trade I have seen yet, and i have seen plenty.

Noah retained is worth more than Lohrei & Merk as it is, so why is Calgary paying a 1st too? 🤯</div></div>

Oilers fan - consider the source!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 15 h 27

Sujet: There is reason to the madness

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>:tearsofjoy I love toronto fans. If timmins is worth more than tanev why not just keep timmins?</div></div>

They really need a minimum age limit for participation on this site!

Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. à 15 h 25

Sujet: Only way this gets done with Tampa imo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_Enthusiast</b></div><div>Don't care for it then... Howard was a beast on that world Junior team, and a 1st was given in addition to that. Idk if paying the much for Hanafin as a rental is realistic</div></div>

The only reason Cgy considers TB is that Hanifin has expressed interest in signing there long term. If that is not possible he will be dealt elsewhere that has a better set of assets to acquire him than a first round pick 3 years from now!

Forum: Armchair-GM20 févr. à 15 h 15

Sujet: Only way to keep Hanifin AND Stamkos

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LordStanlersCup</b></div><div>if we get hanifin then there would be no need for perbix though it would probably look like:

Hedman - Thompson
Hanifin - Sergachev
Lilleberg - Cernak
Scratches: Raddysh</div></div>

It is immaterial because that is nowhere near enough forHanifin - you would have to hope he doesn't sign with whoever he is traded to cause everyone beats that offer!

Forum: Fauteuil - DG20 févr. à 12 h 19

Sujet: Whats the trade price for him

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>You will never gonna receive a futhermore Norris winner for Rasmus Andersson....... :tearsofjoy

But what about Jordan Harris, the 2024 1st round pick (WPG) and a 2025 3rd round pick (MTL) + a conditional 2026 3rd round pick (MTL) ? I'm sure that's a realistic offer for him.</div></div>

Guys you don't acquire top pairing 27 year old RD with 2 years left on a super value contract for late 1st round picks and B prospects.

The price for that type of player will always include items that hurt to give up - so it would definitely include MTL's first round pick and a top prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. à 14 h 54

Sujet: Thoughts On This Trade

As a Flames fan I can say that that is a ridiculous overpay (but we would happily take it😁)

Forum: Fauteuil - DG8 févr. à 15 h 12

Sujet: Treviling Getting Back his old staff

Calgary has 2 NHL centerman and you think they are going to trade one of them -, much less their captain? They still have to ice a team!

Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. à 14 h 54

Sujet: Noah hanifin

I think Calgary does this if the pick wasn't all the way into 2026!

Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. à 14 h 49

Sujet: Deadline 2024

The Duclair ship has sailed for Calgary with the Kuzmenko acquisition.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. à 17 h 11

Sujet: Take It Or Leave It on Tanev

RnR is feisty this afternoon!

Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 12 h 7

Sujet: All in

No chance he is moved but if he was to be Lambert would most definitely need to be part of the package coming back

Forum: Armchair-GM1 févr. à 16 h 27

Sujet: FlamesDucks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>I'm just wondering how Toronto gets a 3rd in the Flames trade?

And you are aware the Flames never retain, right? 🙄</div></div>

I was wondering where the rest of the assets were in the Flames trade - that doesn't get Hanifin with that retention much less Tanvev as well.

Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. à 17 h 21

Sujet: not waiting for TDL

Gotta think the Flames take that one!

Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. à 11 h 32

Sujet: Deadline option 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>Beg your pardon? What part of a 2nd round pick in 2026 or an expiring Lindy the Avs can't afford to re-sign is fair for Byram?</div></div>

It is a 2024 2nd that will be quite low and the Flames are taking nearly $8M in Cap off your books to allow you to resign Lindholm.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 17 h 55

Sujet: See ya later Dube

He has officially played his last NHL game methinks!

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 15 h 3

Sujet: depth

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LaTornade</b></div><div>Not ready to give up Ritchie for a rental. That seems not so great.</div></div>

Don't forget the first as well 😜

Forum: Armchair-GM26 janv. à 16 h 19

Sujet: This one goes out for all the cuties in the comments section

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Leafs aren’t using a first on a forward we do not need pass, drop Gregor the 3rd and the retention on tanev and leafs accept</div></div>

Hey - he said it was for the cuties in the comment section - you don't get to participate on this one 😁

Forum: Armchair-GM26 janv. à 11 h 28

Sujet: next year

Wow $32M in retention and a high first round pick - please name one precedent in the NHL where any team did anything remotely similar to this.

It sucks but Calgary will simply be riding out the Hubby contract and hoping they can eventually find players in a rebuild that he clicks with.

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