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Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars à 13 h 25
Sujet: Blues blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Fair enough, I welcome genuine questioning.

Well, like I said, neither I nor the Blues want to trade him. So there's that. It's not like he's being offered around. Then there's the factor that the Blues have absolutely no one in the organization who can come anywhere near replacing him, now in the future. Some will say "oh his bad contract!" but the Blues would tell you that having him locked up for a more than reasonable cap hit that will only get more affordable as the cap rises a ton in the coming years adds to his value - not subtracts from it. And that's all before we even get to his NTC, which he would exercise very freely, I can promise you that. But that's not really relevant to your question, just an added hurdle worth mentioning.

So... obviously a legit top 4, if not top pairing RD or RD prospect would need to come back. Just to start with. I know you guys are high on Niemela, but he is 1) not the type the Blues would want, as he's kinda small and defending is not a strong suit &amp; 2) he's simply not as valuable as some folks in Toronto want him to be. He's a B-B+ prospect. I'm not saying he's bad or anything like that, he might be a decent mid-lineup player one day. But he's not gonna do the trick. Same goes for Lily. Robertson, again, he's a nice 3rd line-ish winger... when he can stay in one piece. Nothing wrong with HIM, per se, but he's not going to entice this kind of thing. Brodie is essentially worthless, as without Parayko this automatically becomes the tank as fast as you can game. Yeah, maybe we can retain and get back a non-1st pick or whatever, but again, that's not enticing in any way.

I'm sure it sucks, but the Leafs really do not have what it would take. Nothing they'd part with, anyway. I'm still waiting for the Willy-for-Colt era to resurrect.</div></div>

First, I'll absolutely agree with you that it's dumb when people say Parayko is on a bad contract. I take a mobile, hulking, top pair RHD that's not too old for $6.5m every day of the week. I think people are insane saying he's over the hill or washed just because he's not playing Norris level hockey right now. All day every day do I take that.

I get you might not want to trade him either but none of us can pretend we actually know what our team does or doesn't want to do or entertain doing. As far as the full tank mode goes, I think if they move Buch like some have speculated then they are ready to rebuild and Parayko makes sense to go as well. Being 6 points out of a wild card spot is a steep hill for them to climb.

I'll also agree it's easy for Leaf fans to get overhyped on our own prospects but I also think that's partially a result of every non-Leaf fan downplaying every single player or prospect in the system that isn't part of the main core as "useless crap" so it's usually an oversteer response imo. I also think that while you have in mind (I say you in the general sense, not you specifically) what an ideal return would be for a guy like Parayko, it doesn't necessarily mean that's what's exactly going to happen. Last deadline is a great example. I'll caveat this by saying I know the players I'm about to mention aren't the same level as Parayko but the general point remains the same. When Chicago traded the Leafs McCabe and Lafferty, everybody thought when they were moved Chicago would get a haul for them because it's the deadline and they were sought after and playing well. Then Chicago took a 1st a 2nd and two players barely above beer league quality, one of which just cleared waivers a week before the trade.

St Louis at least has the benefit of Parayko having much more term than McCabe had so they're not desperate to move him but if they're in rebuild mode and want to collect assets, you could do a lot worse than a young talented winger and a young skilled D man with a 1st. Again, I understand what an ideal return would be for a fan but doesn't always mean it will happen and GMs also don't always value players in the same way a fan does.

Anyway, long story short lol I think it's possible to find a deal for Parayko if they did decide to move him and don't think it's outside the realm of possibility. I do appreciate the thought you put in your response and not being a complete d bag like a lot of people on here haha
Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 13 h 52
Sujet: this is the way to go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Larsson is one of the best shutdown RD in the NHL.

He's only 31 years old.

Your offer would be blown out of the water by 30 other teams.

I haven't heard anything about Francis wanting to even trade him.

It's Leafs fans living in Fantasy land.</div></div>

I wouldn't go so far as to say one of the best shutdown D men in the game considering he didn't get a single Norris trophy vote last year. He's very good, don't get me wrong but that's a bit of a stretch.

And of course it's fantasy land here, that's literally what this entire AGM thing is lol. Also, just because someone hasn't publicly stated their intent to trade or take offers on a player doesn't mean it won't happen. It happens all the time at the deadline when a surprise move is made. It's not a "Leaf fan fantasy land" thing to speculate on players that would fit the roster, every fan base does it.

Chill bro, it's not that serious :)
Forum: Armchair-GM5 mars à 12 h 12
Sujet: Philly amp LA Fans - are either plausible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Of course there's a significant difference between Reilly and Roy. That's why I characterized Reilly as untouchable.

The idea that you have to trade every player on an expiring contract in order to avoid the catastrophe of getting nothing for him when he walks is poor strategy when it weakens your contending team in the short run. Roy being a UFA was an argument (although a horribly weak one) to be made in the summer of 2023. It's no argument now.</div></div>

I was under the impression you were calling him untouchable in a sarcastic manner. Sorry, just so used to random pot shots at every Leaf player all the time.

I do think it's a stretch calling LA a contending team. I don't really see them competing with Colorado, Dallas, Edmonton, Vegas or Vancouver but I guess anything can happen in the playoffs.

I also don't think an expiring contract for a pending UFA is a weak argument at all, especially for a defender. It's not very common to see a defender with value walk in free agency for nothing unless they were trader for by a legitimate top contender at the deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 mars à 10 h 50
Sujet: Philly amp LA Fans - are either plausible
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Matt Roy is the Kings' best defensive defenseman, and doubly critical to Los Angeles while his defense partner is week-to-week. Trading him would be tantamount to abandoning any hope of going far in the playoffs and maybe even reaching them in the first place unless they got an asset of equal <strong>and immediate</strong> value in return. My conviction is that the only guy on your roster for whom they would trade Roy is Morgan Reilly*, and that ain't happening because he's untouchable.

* because it's inconceivable that one of the Big Four would be available</div></div>

I think there's a pretty significant difference between Rielly and Roy though considering Roy is on an expiring contract and will become a UFA. If LA isn't fully confident he resigns would this not be enticing enough to move him?

I also don't think it's inconceivable one of the big guns will move anymore. I just don't think Rielly would be the one to go, I'd guess Marner first.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 févr. à 10 h 56
Sujet: Sharks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>I think ferarro is worth a late first but more likely a second, it would definitely take a first for someone to get him because of how the sharks value him. Ferraro is definitely a shine in the right situation type player, which I wouldnt spend a first on either. The other pieces in this deal aren’t really consequential. Timmins and Abruzzese are both played NHL games type players.</div></div>

I would disagree that the players are inconsequential. They're both young still, 24 and 25, and can be serviceable NHL players. Look at how Barabanov turned out and I'm sure lots of people would've viewed him the same way. Of course, the pick is still the biggest part of the return, but I think so many people just write off any other piece in a deal if they're not an immediately relevant NHLer lol
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 13 h 8
Sujet: Two Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBA</b></div><div>you must not be familiar that Bill Armstrong said they are no longer doing that. The Leafs would have to give up A LOT!!! more such as high picks and prospects for somebody to take on Reaves and let the Leafs off the hook. Would be a lot more than just a 3rd round pick. Typical Leafs fan out to lunch.</div></div>

You must not have read anything else I said, such as "it'd likely take more than the package offered here in terms of picks or prospects" so turn your brain on for a moment before responding and looking like a fool.

GMs say a lot of things. Things change and needs change especially as the deadline gets closer.

Anyway, like I said, it'd take more than a 3rd - although interesting you completely overlook Timmins as well but whatever. I wouldn't hold your breath that you're going to get some massive return for Dumba. Nor would I hold my breath if I were you that the Leafs would need to make some massive overpay sweetener to move a $1.35m contract.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 12 h 40
Sujet: Two Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bwhsocal</b></div><div>timmins was given to TML for free last year, not sure they want him back. reaves is a neg, and 3rd is in few years. not saying dumba has a lot of value but think AZ (w 50%) can get a 3rd in '24 without having to take on back contract for few years.</div></div>

That wasn't the point of my comment though, I also said it'd take more than that package. My point being Arizona frequently takes on contracts to gather more valuable assets in trades. Also, a lot changes in a year, Timmins has played pretty well for the Leafs and if Arizona wouldn't keep him it's another player they can still flip for more picks as teams routinely do.

I don't think the framework of the deal is crazy, I just think it's light on the Leafs end. But my overarching point was that it's not crazy to think Arizona or a similar team would take on Reaves if it came with desirable assets.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 12 h 35
Sujet: Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Faulk_my_Dzingel</b></div><div>I would do it. But I know the rabid leaf homers would lose their mind.</div></div>

I think we'd lose our minds rightfully so lol but I don't think those two forming the basis of a trade is crazy.

It's just always so tough trading away a young, star forward in their prime for an expensive aging D man. Even if he is a great player like Doughty, whom trust me, I would love to have.

Like think back to Pronger being traded at 35 years old. It was Pronger and Dingle for Lupul, Sbisa and two 1sts (21st overall and 29th overall). I think that's less of a return than Marner is when comparing the two, even if we take hindsight out of the equation, Lupul nor Sbisa didn't look like they'd be remotely close to the calibre of player Marner has become.