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Fair trade 2overall

Créé par: JD00
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2023
Publié: 17 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Line-up is a projection of what the team could look like…

Washington pick is top 10 protected for the caps.

Not sure the hart trade is necessary… i would likely use the 31st to draft, maybe our 2rd to drsft hrabal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3900 000 $
Reinbacher, David
3900 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Slafkovsky, Juraj
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Heineman, Emil
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
4.
PHI
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 29
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LOL

You must be on that good good man — Slaf would go at like 8 or 9 overall in this draft and you think we are trading you 2OA for sim and a future 2nd?! LOL
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 33
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 33
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Not even going to throw in 5th overall?
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 36
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Verbeek counters slaf for a 2nd
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 36
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Ha, ha, No. From our point of view, a "fair" trade is #2 overall = #5 overall, Nick Suzuki and Kaiden Guhle.
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 37
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LOL! Another away with fairies trade more like!
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 38
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Its a question of need. Slaf is a rare bread and u guys need a big winger. It cant be that far of… switch the second for a late first or an a- prospect fitting your need (mesar? Kapanen? Farrel? )

Truth is, the cost it would take would be too much for mtl snd what mtl would be willing to offer too low for ducks. Thats why those trade never happen wink
17 juin 2023 à 22 h 47
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That description is ironic AF
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17 juin 2023 à 22 h 50
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
LOL

You must be on that good good man — Slaf would go at like 8 or 9 overall in this draft and you think we are trading you 2OA for sim and a future 2nd?! LOL


8th is being to nice
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17 juin 2023 à 23 h 11
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
LOL

You must be on that good good man — Slaf would go at like 8 or 9 overall in this draft and you think we are trading you 2OA for sim and a future 2nd?! LOL


He’d be between 4-6
18 juin 2023 à 0 h 27
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He’d be between 4-6


No he wouldn’t. The top 6 players in the draft all have higher ceilings than Slafkovsky
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18 juin 2023 à 0 h 45
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Ha, ha, No. From our point of view, a "fair" trade is #2 overall = #5 overall, Nick Suzuki and Kaiden Guhle.


Absurd.
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18 juin 2023 à 1 h 9
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Absurd.


Fantilli has a higher ceiling than any single player on the Habs. It’s more absurd to think that Anaheim would ever move that pick
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18 juin 2023 à 1 h 16
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He’d be between 4-6


I would have a hard time selecting him betweeen 4-6 in his own draft, with Cooley, Wright, Nemec, Korchinski, Hutson, and Jiricek, all being better prospects imo, let alone 4-6 in a much stronger draft class
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18 juin 2023 à 4 h 44
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Ha, ha, No. From our point of view, a "fair" trade is #2 overall = #5 overall, Nick Suzuki and Kaiden Guhle.


i love it when ppl respond to crazy with crazier
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18 juin 2023 à 4 h 45
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I think you guys over in Montreal are missing the Crux of the issue.

There is no "fair" trade that gets you 2OA. Anaheim wants to make the pick as badly as you want to acquire it. That dictates you need to offer a package sufficiently enticing that we are willing to make the trade. That trade will inherently NOT be a fair trade.

Good starting point is Dach + 5OA + 31 OA
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18 juin 2023 à 6 h 40
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Honestly, I would do 5th, 31st and 2024 1st round pick (MTL) top 5 protected. And just take Matvei Mitchkov with that.
18 juin 2023 à 8 h 41
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i love it when ppl respond to crazy with crazier


I agree

The Slafkovsky + a 2nd rounder is unrealistic, but to say Suzuki (a 65 point guy on a very poor offensive team) + Guhle + #5 overall (another 65 point player at least) for Fantilli makes even less sense.

Fantilli is not the next Mario.
18 juin 2023 à 9 h 15
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Ducks and caps trades way off
18 juin 2023 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: LosPatos
No he wouldn’t. The top 6 players in the draft all have higher ceilings than Slafkovsky


100 point ceiling is low, damn. Top 6 this draft if Michkov slides, but your saying you rather Moore, Dvorsky, ASP over Slaf? I’m not saying he will get 100, but thats his ceiling.
He has every tool in the box to hit that. Expect at least 80 in his prime and Conn Smyth level playing in the playoffs. Even Leonard that I love and would draft him 5 this year, I rather Slaf. I’d even debate that Smith v Slaf would be a positional and play style choice. The hate for Slaf is so well setup for him to pull a Jack Hughes in front of y’all noses
18 juin 2023 à 10 h 58
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I think you guys over in Montreal are missing the Crux of the issue.

Yes, the definition of "homer" is someone who always misses the point because he can't take his eyes off his own team and view anything else dispassionately.
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18 juin 2023 à 11 h 52
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Quoting: Caufield
100 point ceiling is low, damn. Top 6 this draft if Michkov slides, but your saying you rather Moore, Dvorsky, ASP over Slaf? I’m not saying he will get 100, but thats his ceiling.
He has every tool in the box to hit that. Expect at least 80 in his prime and Conn Smyth level playing in the playoffs. Even Leonard that I love and would draft him 5 this year, I rather Slaf. I’d even debate that Smith v Slaf would be a positional and play style choice. The hate for Slaf is so well setup for him to pull a Jack Hughes in front of y’all noses


The Jack Hughes and Slafkovsky comparison is wild. Those situations aren’t remotely similar, apart from a disappointing 1st year

Like I said, Slaf would be hard to justify in the top 6 of his own draft, let alone the top 6 of a superior draft
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I would have a hard time selecting him betweeen 4-6 in his own draft, with Cooley, Wright, Nemec, Korchinski, Hutson, and Jiricek, all being better prospects imo, let alone 4-6 in a much stronger draft class
18 juin 2023 à 11 h 58
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The Jack Hughes and Slafkovsky comparison is wild. Those situations aren’t remotely similar, apart from a disappointing 1st year

Like I said, Slaf would be hard to justify in the top 6 of his own draft, let alone the top 6 of a superior draft


No one from his own draft can be justified before him right now. Other than Slaf, only Wright played more than 2 games in the NHL in 2022. He played 7 and he looked a hella lot worse than Slaf. The NHL is miles better than any other league and it's not even arguable. Until someone else plays in the NHL and shows their worth, Slaf is #1. He already played decent on a bottom 6 role at 18. Next year he should play in the top 6 and the offense should explode. Even the "god" Jiricek was worse than Slaf in his 2 game sample in the NHL. Slaf was given a very challenging season by playing a role in the hardest league in the world, while a guy like Wright was given the CHL, and was kinda disappointing.
18 juin 2023 à 12 h 7
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Quoting: Caufield
No one from his own draft can be justified before him right now. Other than Slaf, only Wright played more than 2 games in the NHL in 2022. He played 7 and he looked a hella lot worse than Slaf. The NHL is miles better than any other league and it's not even arguable. Until someone else plays in the NHL and shows their worth, Slaf is #1. He already played decent on a bottom 6 role at 18. Next year he should play in the top 6 and the offense should explode. Even the "god" Jiricek was worse than Slaf in his 2 game sample in the NHL. Slaf was given a very challenging season by playing a role in the hardest league in the world, while a guy like Wright was given the CHL, and was kinda disappointing.


So you wouldn’t take any of those 6 players over Slafkovsy?
18 juin 2023 à 12 h 9
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So you wouldn’t take any of those 6 players over Slafkovsy?


Definitely not. I consider Cooley and that's it. No one else has the Ceiling Slaf. Even the 2 defenses, are good, but they won't be as impactful as a Slafkovsky in the long run
 
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