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Fair trade 2overall

Créé par: JD00
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2023
Publié: 17 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Line-up is a projection of what the team could look like…

Washington pick is top 10 protected for the caps.

Not sure the hart trade is necessary… i would likely use the 31st to draft, maybe our 2rd to drsft hrabal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3900 000 $
Reinbacher, David
3900 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Slafkovsky, Juraj
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Heineman, Emil
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
4.
PHI
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2783 500 000 $77 453 999 $1 170 000 $915 000 $6 046 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Fantilli, Adam
900 000 $900 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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835 000 $835 000 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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885 000 $885 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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918 333 $918 333 $
AD, C
RFA - 3
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Reinbacher, David
900 000 $900 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 3
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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18 juin 2023 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: Caufield
He’d be between 4-6


Bedard
Fantilli
Michkov
Carlsson
Cooley
Smith
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Here is the earliest I would have slafkovsky in a redraft mixed in with this class, and I'd still take Jiricek/Nemec before him. Maybe Dvorsky, too.
18 juin 2023 à 12 h 29
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I think you guys over in Montreal are missing the Crux of the issue.

There is no "fair" trade that gets you 2OA. Anaheim wants to make the pick as badly as you want to acquire it. That dictates you need to offer a package sufficiently enticing that we are willing to make the trade. That trade will inherently NOT be a fair trade.

Good starting point is Dach + 5OA + 31 OA


Unironically they should do this lmaoooo
18 juin 2023 à 13 h 11
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Bedard
Fantilli
Michkov
Carlsson
Cooley
Smith
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Here is the earliest I would have slafkovsky in a redraft mixed in with this class, and I'd still take Jiricek/Nemec before him. Maybe Dvorsky, too.


I said 4-6 with Michkov fall, so even you would have to somewhat agree. I also said 4-6 if only Slaf was in 2023, no combination. I'd also debate Slaf goes 1 for 2022 until someone else is able to get an NHL role
18 juin 2023 à 13 h 14
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I said 4-6 with Michkov fall, so even you would have to somewhat agree. I also said 4-6 if only Slaf was in 2023, no combination. I'd also debate Slaf goes 1 for 2022 until someone else is able to get an NHL role


In a redraft, right now, Cooley is first.
18 juin 2023 à 13 h 16
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In a redraft, right now, Cooley is first.


Again, debatable. Put Cooley in the NHL last year and you would've been very disappointed. Put Slaf in the CHL and he would be #1
18 juin 2023 à 13 h 25
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Again, debatable. Put Cooley in the NHL last year and you would've been very disappointed. Put Slaf in the CHL and he would be #1


right, but the argument for slafkovsky was /that he was ready/. Everyone knew Cooley needed a college year. So his biggest selling point /at the time of the draft/ went out the window. Cooley's biggest question mark - his compete and size - was also rectified.
18 juin 2023 à 13 h 35
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
right, but the argument for slafkovsky was /that he was ready/. Everyone knew Cooley needed a college year. So his biggest selling point /at the time of the draft/ went out the window. Cooley's biggest question mark - his compete and size - was also rectified.


Thats pretty inaccurate. Hughes specifically said that he drafted the guy with the highest upside, not the guy with the most NHL readiness now. His plan was to play Slaf this year as an ajustement year. Hughes 100% knew Slaf wasn’t winning the calder. He knew Slaf was good enough to perform now, but that his season this year was in the process for him to be better in the future. If I asked Hughes right now, with no cameras in the room, so no privacy limitations, I am near certain that he would say Slaf’s development plan is going exactly as we expect. The injury was definitely unfortunate, but it shouldn’t really affect him long run
18 juin 2023 à 14 h 30
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I think you guys over in Montreal are missing the Crux of the issue.

There is no "fair" trade that gets you 2OA. Anaheim wants to make the pick as badly as you want to acquire it. That dictates you need to offer a package sufficiently enticing that we are willing to make the trade. That trade will inherently NOT be a fair trade.

Good starting point is Dach + 5OA + 31 OA


Non sense.
18 juin 2023 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: KentMcNally
I agree

The Slafkovsky + a 2nd rounder is unrealistic, but to say Suzuki (a 65 point guy on a very poor offensive team) + Guhle + #5 overall (another 65 point player at least) for Fantilli makes even less sense.

Fantilli is not the next Mario.


There is no guarantee any prospect meets expectations. To quantify the difference from 2nd to 5th with Suzuki & Guhle is absolute mental illness. I get if there isn't a package fans view as adequate for a chance at what Fantilli projects to be. But that offer shows how irrational the average fan is. Too much EA Sports.
18 juin 2023 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: Caufield
Again, debatable. Put Cooley in the NHL last year and you would've been very disappointed. Put Slaf in the CHL and he would be #1


Don't bother wasting your time debating haters and fools.
Caufield a aimé ceci.
18 juin 2023 à 16 h 36
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Quoting: Went_Wughes
Don't bother wasting your time debating haters and fools.


Yea gotta stay ignorant because your biases are the only statements which matter
18 juin 2023 à 17 h 35
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Non sense.


The only nonsense here is thinking Montreal can move up in the draft without an excruciating pricetag.
18 juin 2023 à 17 h 57
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
The only nonsense here is thinking Montreal can move up in the draft without an excruciating pricetag.


As I said above..

There is no guarantee any prospect meets expectations. To quantify the difference from 2nd to 5th with Suzuki & Guhle is absolute mental illness. I get if there isn't a package fans view as adequate for a chance at what Fantilli projects to be. But that offer shows how irrational the average fan is. Too much EA Sports.
 
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