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Core 4 Shakeup

Créé par: whatsmyageagain281
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 juin 2023
Publié: 2 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
2900 000 $
34 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
Transactions
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STL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita (1 875 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Kokkonen, Mikko
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $82 294 084 $0 $0 $1 205 916 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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2 juin 2023 à 16 h 27
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The Jets are better off with one year of Scheifele than Nylander.
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2 juin 2023 à 16 h 27
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What on earth is that Zadorov trade??
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2 juin 2023 à 16 h 29
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Quoting: BlastyRocks
What on earth is that Zadorov trade??


What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 34
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Nylander > Scheifele all day long. Scheifele has to go.

WPG would be best served doing this.
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 35
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leafs arent intersted in the overrated locker room cancer
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2 juin 2023 à 16 h 44
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leafs arent intersted in the overrated locker room cancer


I certainly am as a Leaf fan. We're not in the locker room to know any of what goes on. But I do see him compete when it's playoff time, much better than what we get from Nylander.
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 48
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I certainly am as a Leaf fan. We're not in the locker room to know any of what goes on. But I do see him compete when it's playoff time, much better than what we get from Nylander.


yeah no, hes a cancer, hes also lazier than nylander on the ice, willys is also 3 years younger, much rather have willy
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 48
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yeah no, hes a cancer, hes also lazier than nylander on the ice, willys is also 3 years younger, much rather have willy


How can you say he's a cancer? lol You have zero idea what he's actually like so what are you basing that on?
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 50
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How can you say he's a cancer? lol You have zero idea what he's actually like so what are you basing that on?


many reports of leadership being a huge issue in wpg, bowness called out his top players, scheifele is at the top of that list
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 53
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many reports of leadership being a huge issue in wpg, bowness called out his top players, scheifele is at the top of that list


Scheifele isn't even the captain lol saying leadership was an issue and calling out top players does not equal Scheifele is a cancer. You're not making a very convincing argument I'm afraid.
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 56
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Scheifele isn't even the captain lol saying leadership was an issue and calling out top players does not equal Scheifele is a cancer. You're not making a very convincing argument I'm afraid.


hes apart of the leadership core, https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/daily-nhl-odds-and-betting-trends-01-24-21

hes not a good team guy, and hes not even that good of a hockey player
2 juin 2023 à 16 h 59
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What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.


Who cares what he was acquired for two years prior..

Not only is he coming off two fantastic seasons, but you want Calgary to eat half his caphit.

It's not even remotely close.
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2 juin 2023 à 17 h 11
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Leafs certainly don't want 30 year old Pararyko gumming up the cap for seven years.....and the expense of Liljgren and a first.
2 juin 2023 à 17 h 12
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What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.


You get a D that was tied for 10th in goals for defenseman this season(He has 2 more than Fox, 3 more than Heiskanen). One of the best hitters in the game, for $1.875M and you give up spare parts? Why wouldn't Calgary just trade him at the deadline to the highest bidder if that's all they can get right now.
2 juin 2023 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets are better off with one year of Scheifele than Nylander.


Leafs are waaay better off with Nylander than Scheifele.
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2 juin 2023 à 17 h 37
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You get a D that was tied for 10th in goals for defenseman this season(He has 2 more than Fox, 3 more than Heiskanen). One of the best hitters in the game, for $1.875M and you give up spare parts? Why wouldn't Calgary just trade him at the deadline to the highest bidder if that's all they can get right now.


That season is what is referred to as an anomaly. 14 goals is more than his last 3 (almost 4) seasons combined and he still finished with less points than last season. Thank what you want but he's not fetching top dollar.
2 juin 2023 à 18 h 0
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That season is what is referred to as an anomaly. 14 goals is more than his last 3 (almost 4) seasons combined and he still finished with less points than last season. Thank what you want but he's not fetching top dollar.


I agree it's an anomaly, but he did that without getting any PP time, and it still increases his value.

I'm not saying he's fetching a 1st back, but the Flames aren't retaining either.

He was quite good when he had to step up playing with Weegar in a top 4 role this year. He's been a staple on PK1. He's great at using his stick in separating players from the puck at the blue-line, he has a good shot, and he's relatively fast in transition. He has flaws too, especially at defending the cycle, keeping pucks in the O-zone, defending odd man rushes, and tying up sticks at the front of the net.
2 juin 2023 à 18 h 14
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What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.


And since that time he has turned into a very effective 3rd pairing defenseman who can move up to the 2nd pair when necessary - is huge, plays physical and scored 14 goals last season.

So of course we should take less than what we paid for for him originally - that is the Cap Friendly way!
2 juin 2023 à 19 h 13
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What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.

Well other than the obvious that it is f'n hot garbage...

1. Zadorov is coming off back to back good years, I would even say last season was very good.
2. You have us eating salary on a solid contract.
3. The return is a borderline ECHL/AHL defenseman, a 4th and a 5th. When Zadorov probably gets a 2nd in the current marketplace, at the very least a pair of thirds and/or comparable prospects.
2 juin 2023 à 19 h 16
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I agree it's an anomaly, but he did that without getting any PP time, and it still increases his value.

I'm not saying he's fetching a 1st back, but the Flames aren't retaining either.

He was quite good when he had to step up playing with Weegar in a top 4 role this year. He's been a staple on PK1. He's great at using his stick in separating players from the puck at the blue-line, he has a good shot, and he's relatively fast in transition. He has flaws too, especially at defending the cycle, keeping pucks in the O-zone, defending odd man rushes, and tying up sticks at the front of the net.


The goals were an anomaly, yes, but he played the same way the season before but instead of him scoring goals, he would set someone up in the slot or create a rebound goal. So the point total or offense generated was not an anomaly.
2 juin 2023 à 20 h 37
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What is your issue with it? Are you expecting me to send Matthews with it? Calgary got him for a 3rd, this is hardly a stretch.


We can get a 2nd for Z without retaining
2 juin 2023 à 20 h 40
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets are better off with one year of Scheifele than Nylander.


Nylander is the better player at this point but there is zero chance Willie Styles signs long term in Manitoba.
 
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