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Créé par: NucksnOilers
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2023
Publié: 18 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 850 000 $
31 250 000 $
21 450 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
21 450 000 $
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MIN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Saw this deal from a wild fan and loved it. Edmonton needs a proven top 6 winger to provide goal scoring and Hartman brings that. Would be pretty funny to see him and Kane together
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EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Savoie, Carter
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
*If healthy

I like the fit in Edmonton, he's proven playoff wise and a great veteran.
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EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
Détails additionnels:
An isles fan seemed to like him so sure
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EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
DET
  1. Ceci, Cody
Détails additionnels:
Team pushing for the playoffs who needs a veteran right shot d-man
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 50
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Wings pass, not a player they would ever want
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 51
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I know you saved some cap space, but Edmundson is a blatant downgrade from Ceci to the point where it’s not even worth moving Ceci.
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 52
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You a Montreal fan?
18 mai 2023 à 20 h 56
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I would take Ceci in Detroit. Not sure on his value though.
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 57
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That Isles fan was me, and it was hypothetical to see his price.
Think he needs new surroundings
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 58
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
I know you saved some cap space, but Edmundson is a blatant downgrade from Ceci to the point where it’s not even worth moving Ceci.


Quoting: OilednGreasy
You a Montreal fan?


Lmao no I'm an oilers fan. Look I've always been against moving a 2nd or more for Edmundson but if he's healthy and available for cheap I like the move. The 3rd is a few years away and Savoie doesn't have a spot in Edmonton. Defensive players on bad teams always seem worse then they are and it's not like Ceci is some amazing piece rn from what I saw in the playoffs. If Edmundson can get back to even close to what he was in the playoffs it's a great deal for Edmonton
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18 mai 2023 à 20 h 58
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Good trade
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Quoting: ChrisNapoleon
That Isles fan was me, and it was hypothetical to see his price.
Think he needs new surroundings


Yeah I mean the price is probably a 3rd a couple years away or a 4th this upcoming draft. Isles are also short on cap tho so I don't know if he would be a fit for them
18 mai 2023 à 21 h 0
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Wings pass, not a player they would ever want


A veteran RD only signed for 2 years to help sustain their bottom 4 and get them into the playoffs? I mean it seems like a good fit to me, don't have to offer up much and fills a need for them
18 mai 2023 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Yeah I mean the price is probably a 3rd a couple years away or a 4th this upcoming draft. Isles are also short on cap tho so I don't know if he would be a fit for them


We're probably getting rid of Josh Bailey this off season (hopefully)
He was recently seen at Citi Field to boos from the crowd lol
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18 mai 2023 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: ChrisNapoleon
We're probably getting rid of Josh Bailey this off season (hopefully)
He was recently seen at Citi Field to boos from the crowd lol


to create an answer for cap space
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18 mai 2023 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
I know you saved some cap space, but Edmundson is a blatant downgrade from Ceci to the point where it’s not even worth moving Ceci.


Habs gotta have the most fans pretending to be fans of other teams on this site
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18 mai 2023 à 21 h 4
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The uneducated "Edmundson is washed" logic on this site is baffling, didn't realize there were so many misinformed hockey fans.
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18 mai 2023 à 21 h 6
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Minnesota would decline at least till.the deadline. He's their 1c
18 mai 2023 à 21 h 13
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
A veteran RD only signed for 2 years to help sustain their bottom 4 and get them into the playoffs? I mean it seems like a good fit to me, don't have to offer up much and fills a need for them


Nah he's not good, we want to improve and already have a bottom pair RD, we need a 2nd pairing and he's not it
18 mai 2023 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: Mjoyce001
Minnesota would decline at least till.the deadline. He's their 1c


I'm guessing I'm the "wild fan" he's referring to and yes, that was my initial thought process as well. HOWEVER, if we don't plan on being serious contenders next year (which we shouldn't imo), we may as well trade him this offseason. He fills a need for us and is a great all-around player but what's the point of keeping him when he'd be better served playing for a true contender?
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Nah he's not good, we want to improve and already have a bottom pair RD, we need a 2nd pairing and he's not it


What 2nd Pairing RD would be available? Severson is getting 6 mil+, Mayfield would be a longer commitment. Gudas I guess would be the option but what's stopping Florida from just keeping him?
18 mai 2023 à 22 h 9
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
What 2nd Pairing RD would be available? Severson is getting 6 mil+, Mayfield would be a longer commitment. Gudas I guess would be the option but what's stopping Florida from just keeping him?


Pionk, Girard, zadarov, Sean walker, Sean durzi, Addison, any of these is better then ceci and there not even thinking about it. I think ceci has negative value and does nothing for the Red Wings. He's basically a used car salesman at this point and has 0 value to wings
18 mai 2023 à 22 h 19
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Isles have absolutely no interest in a 5'8 winger.....sleepy
19 mai 2023 à 0 h 8
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Pionk, Girard, zadarov, Sean walker, Sean durzi, Addison, any of these is better then ceci and there not even thinking about it. I think ceci has negative value and does nothing for the Red Wings. He's basically a used car salesman at this point and has 0 value to wings


I feel like Ceci is definitely over-hated in this opinion. Now I won't argue whether he's a good fit for the wings or not since I'm not a red wings fan but Ceci most definitely does not have negative value. He's been a really solid bottom 4 guy and sure he's nothing special but he's definitely worth a 3rd if a team has room for him. He hasn't been special or a liability for Edmonton at all this last season giving him fair value. He played top pairing minutes (not a top pairing player obv). If the wings don't want him sure but given the defensive market a team will def pay a 3rd for him
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Isles have absolutely no interest in a 5'8 winger.....sleepy


You don't have to be interested in Yams but the hockey take of evaluating a player due to height might be one of the most shallow things ever. Bedard,Point,Debrincat,Guadreau, Marchand and Caulfield are all undersize and would be the Isles best player lmao.
19 mai 2023 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
You don't have to be interested in Yams but the hockey take of evaluating a player due to height might be one of the most shallow things ever. Bedard,Point,Debrincat,Guadreau, Marchand and Caulfield are all undersize and would be the Isles best player lmao.


However you want to spin it....He wouldn't play for us. We have a better version in Ruslan Iskhakov in Bridgeport and he has NO shot playing for the big club. Although you mentioned a few undersize players, all the ones you mentioned are star players....Yam isn't even close to their talent.
19 mai 2023 à 8 h 3
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Quoting: Nightowl26
However you want to spin it....He wouldn't play for us. We have a better version in Ruslan Iskhakov in Bridgeport and he has NO shot playing for the big club. Although you mentioned a few undersize players, all the ones you mentioned are star players....Yam isn't even close to their talent.
19 mai 2023 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
The uneducated "Edmundson is washed" logic on this site is baffling, didn't realize there were so many misinformed hockey fans.


https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20202021&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8476879&p2=8476441&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

My educated guess is If Ceci can't cut it playing there then Edmundson would be absolutely caved in.
19 mai 2023 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
I feel like Ceci is definitely over-hated in this opinion. Now I won't argue whether he's a good fit for the wings or not since I'm not a red wings fan but Ceci most definitely does not have negative value. He's been a really solid bottom 4 guy and sure he's nothing special but he's definitely worth a 3rd if a team has room for him. He hasn't been special or a liability for Edmonton at all this last season giving him fair value. He played top pairing minutes (not a top pairing player obv). If the wings don't want him sure but given the defensive market a team will def pay a 3rd for him


Hard to argue with that logic, from a wings perspective lots of wings fans actually like him and want him for that price, I guess I'm just not one of those fans.
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