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Pick Swapping with MTL and SEA to get younger this year

Créé par: gpmack95
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2023
Publié: 14 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
21 750 000 $
21 850 000 $
2850 000 $
1900 000 $
2950 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
21 900 000 $
65 500 000 $
21 125 000 $
23 750 000 $
12 500 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Ylönen, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
28-32 overall + 40th overall + 133rd overall
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
14th overall
2.
PIT
  1. Geekie, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
60-64 overall + 50th overall
SEA
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
POJ and Geekie swap

40th overall + 2024 4th round pick
3.
PIT
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Garland, Conor
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
137th overall
VAN
  1. Broz, Tristan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
VAN moves out salary that they want to shed (Garland) and get a former 2nd round pick (Broz) and a 2023 2nd round pick
4.
PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
This allows BUF to get a veteran D partner for Powers while they draft and develop someone, while they get to move up in the draft
BUF
  1. Petry, Jeff (1 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
5.
PIT
  1. Fischer, Christian [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
PIT gets a bigger body for the bottom six that is 26 years old and is a good penalty killer
ARI
  1. Rutta, Jan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
ARI moves up in the draft with two high 4th round picks
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 950 175 $0 $0 $2 549 825 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
950 000 $950 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ (650 000 $$650K650 000 $$650K)
G
UFA - 1

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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 28
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I like Adin Hill but want zero part of Freddy Anderson
No on schenn
Honestly I’d rather resign zucker then trade for garland
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I know many Habs fans would be opposed to that trade but I am not. Im all for it. In fairness though, I really feel Pitt shouldn't be trading quality for quantity right now. They need a homerun more than they need multiple swings IMHO.
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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I like Adin Hill but want zero part of Freddy Anderson
No on schenn
Honestly I’d rather resign zucker then trade for garland


I feel Garland would be great for our middle six. Zucker needs to walk, he was good but we should try to get younger and get away from the staleness of the last couple seasons. As for goalies, it’s tough- maybe Varlomov and Hill tandem and use extra money saved to upgrade a forward?
14 mai 2023 à 12 h 32
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I know many Habs fans would be opposed to that trade but I am not. Im all for it. In fairness though, I really feel Pitt shouldn't be trading quality for quantity right now. They need a homerun more than they need multiple swings IMHO.


Quoting: F50marco
I know many Habs fans would be opposed to that trade but I am not. Im all for it. In fairness though, I really feel Pitt shouldn't be trading quality for quantity right now. They need a homerun more than they need multiple swings IMHO.


I can see that argument and agree with it, but in reality we have 1-2 more chances with Crosby. Will that 14th pick help us this year? Possibly next, but it’s a toss up. Gathering more assets to fix this team is the best option imo.
14 mai 2023 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: F50marco
I know many Habs fans would be opposed to that trade but I am not. Im all for it. In fairness though, I really feel Pitt shouldn't be trading quality for quantity right now. They need a homerun more than they need multiple swings IMHO.


As a Habs fan I would do it
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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 34
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Quoting: F50marco
I know many Habs fans would be opposed to that trade but I am not. Im all for it. In fairness though, I really feel Pitt shouldn't be trading quality for quantity right now. They need a homerun more than they need multiple swings IMHO.


i'm not against either but would rather put AVS 2nd and Gurianov in play instead !!
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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: gpmack95
I can see that argument and agree with it, but in reality we have 1-2 more chances with Crosby. Will that 14th pick help us this year? Possibly next, but it’s a toss up. Gathering more assets to fix this team is the best option imo.


Fair enough. Listen, I won't twist your arm. wink
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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 44
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Quoting: F50marco
Fair enough. Listen, I won't twist your arm. wink


if we can keep our 2nd rounder to draft a goalie or Strbak it would be easier to deal Fla 1st and Avs 2nd. There is too much prospect that we should look at ... !
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14 mai 2023 à 12 h 54
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I feel like that might be a slight overpay for Bear. Also that's a really good deal for Buffalo given their cap room!
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 0
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Canucks need to move out cap would have to consider any trade like this. Fair value won’t happen & they’ll need or be forced into a less than ideal trade or more.
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 3
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Canucks need to move out cap would have to consider any trade like this. Fair value won’t happen & they’ll need or be forced into a less than ideal trade or more.[/

I was too fair then?
14 mai 2023 à 13 h 15
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As others have said I am not opposed to this type of move but would rather move the 2nd to the 2024 draft even if it means upgrading from Ylonen to a Struble type of prospect or upgrading the 4th to a 3rd in 2023
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: Campabee
As others have said I am not opposed to this type of move but would rather move the 2nd to the 2024 draft even if it means upgrading from Ylonen to a Struble type of prospect or upgrading the 4th to a 3rd in 2023


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if we can keep our 2nd rounder to draft a goalie or Strbak it would be easier to deal Fla 1st and Avs 2nd. There is too much prospect that we should look at ... !


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As a Habs fan I would do it


i did the MTL side of the deal here with draft picks too: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4185227
14 mai 2023 à 13 h 19
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Can’t see the Sabres having any interest. My thoughts on petry notwithstanding, the extra year just complicates things.
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 21
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Can’t see the Sabres having any interest. My thoughts on petry notwithstanding, the extra year just complicates things.


With the last year of the deal, cap should be up a couple million. Plus Lyubushkin and/or Joker are gone
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 21
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The last thing the Pens need are more teeny forwards with big contracts. Hard no.
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: HulkVader
The last thing the Pens need are more teeny forwards with big contracts. Hard no.


Agreed but Tom Wilson, Josh Anderson, and Lawson Crouse’s all don’t just fall into our laps. Geekie Fischer and Barbashev add some size
14 mai 2023 à 13 h 24
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With the last year of the deal, cap should be up a couple million. Plus Lyubushkin and/or Joker are gone


It’s going to go up by less with Bally sports collapsing. And whatever money is coming off the books twice as much is being added. Power, Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Krebs. If they want to make any additions after that they are better off not having that cap hit on the books. It’s just not worth it.
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 54
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Agreed but Tom Wilson, Josh Anderson, and Lawson Crouse’s all don’t just fall into our laps. Geekie Fischer and Barbashev add some size


No, but Billy G's in cap hell, Marcus Foligno could probably be had for less than ransom. And Zemgus Girgensons is scheduled to be UFA. If Buff doesn't re-sign him prior to that he'd be a nice add to the bottom six, as well. Just need a few guys who play with an edge and can chip in that can be had for less than a future piece like POJ.
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14 mai 2023 à 13 h 56
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No, but Billy G's in cap hell, Marcus Foligno could probably be had for less than ransom. And Zemgus Girgensons is scheduled to be UFA. If Buff doesn't re-sign him prior to that he'd be a nice add to the bottom six, as well. Just need a few guys who play with an edge and can chip in that can be had for less than a future piece like POJ.


I would love Foligno at the right cost. Girgensons is eh depending what we have added before free agency.
14 mai 2023 à 13 h 59
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Depending on who's available at #14, Montreal would probably be very interested.
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14 mai 2023 à 14 h 36
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With the last year of the deal, cap should be up a couple million. Plus Lyubushkin and/or Joker are gone


Taking Petry wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd do it if the market doesn't provide better options. I'd think he'd be good on our third pair and could play up if we have injuries. Would prefer someone younger, though.
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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 45
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Quoting: gpmack95
I feel Garland would be great for our middle six. Zucker needs to walk, he was good but we should try to get younger and get away from the staleness of the last couple seasons. As for goalies, it’s tough- maybe Varlomov and Hill tandem and use extra money saved to upgrade a forward?


If we are clearing a forward then it should be rust or Guentzel not zucker
I love both of those guys but zucker plays like he cares every single game and brings the intensity this team needs so badly
Honestly I don’t want more than 1 goalie from free agency
The other 1 should be jarry or someone we trade for like Samsonov, Swayman, Vejmelka, etc
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14 mai 2023 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
If we are clearing a forward then it should be rust or Guentzel not zucker
I love both of those guys but zucker plays like he cares every single game and brings the intensity this team needs so badly
Honestly I don’t want more than 1 goalie from free agency
The other 1 should be jarry or someone we trade for like Samsonov, Swayman, Vejmelka, etc


I agree about moving one of, if not both 59 and 17. But pens fans will cry
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