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Swayman and Guentzel

Créé par: Arom5477
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 13 avr. 2023
Publié: 13 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
2800 000 $
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
55 000 000 $
56 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
56 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Swayman, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
BOS
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
This is the exact same trade as the NYR/COL trade for Georgiev
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
I know DET was interested in Petry in the past...
3.
PIT
  1. Karlsson, William
  2. McNabb, Brayden
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
**2024 2nd round pick becomes a 2024 1st round pick if VGK makes the Stanley Cup Final -or- Guentzel scores 40+ goals.**
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 075 175 $0 $0 $3 424 825 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 47
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That’s a criminal return for Swayman
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 50
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Quoting: Pensman69
That’s a criminal return for Swayman


People said the same thing about the Georgiev trade (see trade description), yet it happened.
13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 50
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 51
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That may be the trade made for Georgiev but Swayman is much better. You could try an offersheet but doubt Swayman is dealt for less than a really solid prospect and a 2nd/3rd. Boston doesnt even have to trade him so they hold all the cards

If Pitts trades Jake then I hope its for picks and prospects because otherwise just keep him and hope to resign. You can easily get a 1st, top prospect, and good roster player for him
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 53
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I'd rather get picks for Guentzel
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 55
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Lol. No.

Not trading Sway unless they are forced to. And won’t be for that if they do.
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 55
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13 avr. 2023 à 15 h 57
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Quoting: Arom5477
People said the same thing about the Georgiev trade (see trade description), yet it happened.
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Quoting: Arom5477
People said the same thing about the Georgiev trade (see trade description), yet it happened.


Who did? I said they’d be lucky to get more than a pair of 3rds for him. He put up backup caliber numbers in NY. Sway has put up #1 numbers, high end #1 numbers.
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 0
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Swayman would need more.
Petry would net much less.
Guentzel trade would need to be for younger guys not older ones.
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: Skyraider112
That may be the trade made for Georgiev but Swayman is much better. You could try an offersheet but doubt Swayman is dealt for less than a really solid prospect and a 2nd/3rd. Boston doesnt even have to trade him so they hold all the cards

If Pitts trades Jake then I hope its for picks and prospects because otherwise just keep him and hope to resign. You can easily get a 1st, top prospect, and good roster player for him


I agree with your values but Bos likely needs to move him or Ullmark. Or trade picks with that terrible Hall contract.
Swayman might get a little less than a 1st, A prospect and established player; but not a ton less.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Unless Vegas wants to dump a lot of cap, that's a lot to give up for one year of Guentzel.
Signing Zucker and Severson long term.....seems like you've just added to the Pens problems. Too much cap in players who are the decline
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 26
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Sweeney would block your number forever with that insulting garbage.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 27
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Swayman isn’t going anywhere.
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 28
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Quoting: Arom5477
People said the same thing about the Georgiev trade (see trade description), yet it happened.


Rangers had Shesterkin as #1 and I believe Georgiev requested a trade. Anyways, Georgiev had one good season in 4 years whereas Swayman has been good for most part of his career and is younger. Most importantly, Bruins are highly likely to not move Swayman. Remember Pens letting Fleury go and going with the younger Murray? Same thing here.
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 28
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Quoting: Arom5477
People said the same thing about the Georgiev trade (see trade description), yet it happened.


Swayman is Patrick Roy compared to George.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 29
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Detroit declines
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 29
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Quoting: Victor24
I agree with your values but Bos likely needs to move him or Ullmark. Or trade picks with that terrible Hall contract.
Swayman might get a little less than a 1st, A prospect and established player; but not a ton less.


If 2x$6M for a top6 player is a terrible contract, I will gladly keep him.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 47
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Quoting: WesternMass
We don’t have to trade either goalie. If we do though it’s 100% Ullmark.


Agree to disagree on need buy I will agree that it's likely Ullmark.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 50
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The DET fans are gonna come for you lol
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 52
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The DET fans are gonna come for you lol


As they should
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 53
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Both goalies can be kept.
13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 56
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If 2x$6M for a top6 player is a terrible contract, I will gladly keep him.


Who's the top 6 guy? Hall? I don't know how much he is a top 6 guy. He has what, 2 great seasons? Hasn't scored more than 20 goals in a season in 6 years. I don't think a guy who scores 15 goals a year is a top 6. Maybe a middle 6.
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13 avr. 2023 à 16 h 57
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As long as we trade Forbort and Hall we can keep both goalies.


That's possible. Throw out Coyle too
13 avr. 2023 à 17 h 1
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Maybe if Petry is 50% retained I might consider.
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13 avr. 2023 à 17 h 3
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Maybe if Petry is 50% retained I might consider.


Petry at 50% for two thirds? Done!
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