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Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars à 20 h 15
Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars à 12 h 35
Sujet: T4D PKF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>Again, you remove context and misunderstand what I say. I'm not comparing him to Smith's first season. I am comparing *right now*.
Smith is scoring like that in his prime and in 2nd line minutes. Robertson is scoring like that in his 1st full season and in 4th line minutes.
Robertson isn't "the next Reilly Smith". That's where he is *now*, not where I expect him to be.

"They don't send guys who have shown something back to the AHL." Someone break the bad news to Logan Stankoven. Don't act like GMs and coaches are infallible.

"A good player but by no means elite." I love the guy and think he's super underrated. But I don't think GMs would bite on a blue-chip prospect and a 1st for Pettersson.</div></div>

Right. Smith right now. In an underwhelming season where he looks lost. That's not a good comparison for your POV (Robertson is good). Now, I will say he has the chance to be a good top 6 winger, but based on everything we've seem so far, he will likely end up somewhere near where Reilly Smith is.

Smith on a good team with a good fit (last year) scored 26 goals and had 56 points. He has 5 seasons of 20+ goals.

Also Robertson commonly plays with Domi and Jarnkrok (3rd line), not the 4th line.

I'm not trying to fight you, I also like Robertson. But, realistically his ceiling is Smith, a good top 6.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars à 10 h 14
Sujet: T4D PKF
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>Please explain to me how having a similar scoring pace as Reilly Smith with less TOI and being much younger = hasn't shown anything yet.

And a comparison to Nail Yakupov, especially his OHL numbers, doesn't make a convincing argument. Yakupov scored really well in the OHL, that's why he went 1OA. He wasn't able to turn that into NHL success. That means nothing when talking about any other player.
But if we want to play that game:
Nick Robertson: 55 goals, 86 points in 46 games
Jason Robertson: 41 goals, 87 points in 68 games
And look how well Jason's turned out at the NHL level.</div></div>

A similar scoring pace to Reilly Smith? The same Reilly Smith who everyone says hasn't worked out in Pittsburgh and needs to go? I don't think that's the guy you want to use.

He also has less TOI because he has been sent to the AHL many times. They don't send guys who have shown something back to the AHL.

I used Nail, not to show Robertson was a bust or going to be a bust (as I stated above), but to state that guys who scored big in the OHL don't always translate to the NHL and become elite.

You mentioned Reily Smith. Let's look at his first full season at 22: 20 goals, 31 assists in 82 games. So to me, it looks like Robertson could be the next Reilly Smith. A good player but by no means elite.