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Armchair-GM
il y a 5 heures
Sujet:
Pens trade for 2 pick inspired
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Very rarely to any teams trade top 3 picks. In any sport. They are so valuable. I don’t know what the price would even be.
Definitely Marino, Probaly Poulin, the Pens 1st this year and maybe even acouple secondary pieces.
They have a value chart for every sport and draft picks that most GM’s follow to some degree. What each picks value is. U can just google it.
Page 7 is the NHL draft pick value chart
https://myslu.stlawu.edu/~msch/sports/Schuckers_NHL_Draft.pdf</div></div>
Does two 1sts (2022, 23) and Marino get it done?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 5 heures
Sujet:
Pens trade for 2 pick inspired
Great minds think alike
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 6 heures
Sujet:
What Id do
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine875948</b></div><div>Marchment and Paul get less. Pens decline the NJD trade</div></div>
What would a counter-trade be. I think it's smart to get that pick, especially if we can get it for less. Perfect way to get a garaunteed huge future of the team while giving away 2 picks that are late and may/may not pay off. Marino can be replaced easily in FA as well, lots of options.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 19 h 3
Sujet:
Penguins summer
It should be Pettersson. Dumo had a rough year, but Letang plays best with him as his partner. I think he has potential to bounce back too, he's had a lot of injuries to recover from.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 17 h 54
Sujet:
2022-23 Season Projection
This team is way worse than this years team. Need some new blood and change. More youth speed and physicality. I like the Fleury move and I'm fine with bringing some guys back but need change.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 13 h 14
Sujet:
JT Miller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CanucksPain</b></div><div>Marino and a 3rd for Miller is laughable, the original trade is good value</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Miller for Marino, Kapanen, 1st
Absolutely no need for Marino +1st for Miller
Miller for Marino, 3rd</div></div>
Yeah Marino and a 3rd does not get it done, no way. That would maybe get Boeser, but still would probably have to add more for that. I think this value is good for Miller, but I'd want to agree on a deal before the trades done for an extension.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 9 h 53
Sujet:
Big trades and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine875948</b></div><div>Marino + Kapanen + 1st for Miller + Myers (1.5 retained) seemed to be a trade everyone liked</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jukesy</b></div><div>Few things.
If you are going to sign Kadri for 7mil you'd may as well sign Trocheck or even just re-sign Geno for that price. Kadri is NOT worth 7mil.
Secondly, you could probably fetch more for Zucker. Yes he's injury prone, but he's a good middle 6 winger, and he only has 1 year left on his deal. That's a big factor here, he's moveable and valuable to a team that needs middle 6 wingers, especially if they have tons of cap space to work with. He's not going to fetch you some HUGE return or anything but he's far from worth nothing.
Thirdly, Carter is NOT being moved, he JUST signed a 2 year extension, with a full NMC. Why on earth would he waive it to go SEATTLE. As well. Even if he did waive it. Why on earth are you giving up Carter McGinn and Leagre for JUST Brandon Tanev. He is not worth that at all, as much as I love him.
Now I know im ****ting on this roster a bit but there's some real good things. Marchment is good, I think Athanasiou for 2mil is a great deal, and I think it's realistic. I think whoever gets him will be getting a steal. Cole coming back is good too and that's a realistic price for him.
I'd love that 4th line as an actual line, I just dont know if there's any reason to be signing a 4C to 2.75 mil when you're a team that's cap crunched. Keep in mind, Dumo, Jarry, POJ would all be up for extensions next year. Do you really wanna lose them at the cost of having Nick Paul and Brandon Tanev on your 4th line? As well. Guentzel is up in the following offseason.
This roster would be sick on paper I think if you replaced Kadri with either Geno or Trocheck, but I just think your value in the Seattle trade was WAY off, and a few of your good signings are being offset by a few bad ones too.
EDIT: I didn't even mention Anderson. Huge contract once again on a cap crunched team, and giving up Marino for Anderson straight up is AWFUL. Awful awful awful. Marino is worth way more than Anderson. Maybe anderson + a 2nd for Marino...</div></div>
Is there any other trade that gets you Anderson without giving up Marino?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 9 h 52
Sujet:
Big trades and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Imagine875948</b></div><div>Marino + Kapanen + 1st for Miller + Myers (1.5 retained) seemed to be a trade everyone liked</div></div>
I would do that trade. Sucks giving up a 1st, but if Miller signs long term I'm all for it.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 9 h 36
Sujet:
Big trades and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jukesy</b></div><div>Few things.
If you are going to sign Kadri for 7mil you'd may as well sign Trocheck or even just re-sign Geno for that price. Kadri is NOT worth 7mil.
Secondly, you could probably fetch more for Zucker. Yes he's injury prone, but he's a good middle 6 winger, and he only has 1 year left on his deal. That's a big factor here, he's moveable and valuable to a team that needs middle 6 wingers, especially if they have tons of cap space to work with. He's not going to fetch you some HUGE return or anything but he's far from worth nothing.
Thirdly, Carter is NOT being moved, he JUST signed a 2 year extension, with a full NMC. Why on earth would he waive it to go SEATTLE. As well. Even if he did waive it. Why on earth are you giving up Carter McGinn and Leagre for JUST Brandon Tanev. He is not worth that at all, as much as I love him.
Now I know im ****ting on this roster a bit but there's some real good things. Marchment is good, I think Athanasiou for 2mil is a great deal, and I think it's realistic. I think whoever gets him will be getting a steal. Cole coming back is good too and that's a realistic price for him.
I'd love that 4th line as an actual line, I just dont know if there's any reason to be signing a 4C to 2.75 mil when you're a team that's cap crunched. Keep in mind, Dumo, Jarry, POJ would all be up for extensions next year. Do you really wanna lose them at the cost of having Nick Paul and Brandon Tanev on your 4th line? As well. Guentzel is up in the following offseason.
This roster would be sick on paper I think if you replaced Kadri with either Geno or Trocheck, but I just think your value in the Seattle trade was WAY off, and a few of your good signings are being offset by a few bad ones too.
EDIT: I didn't even mention Anderson. Huge contract once again on a cap crunched team, and giving up Marino for Anderson straight up is AWFUL. Awful awful awful. Marino is worth way more than Anderson. Maybe anderson + a 2nd for Marino...</div></div>
I would love to get JT Miller, but what would we give up to get him? Marino would certainly be a part of it, but after that it gets tough. I would consider trading a first for Miller, but I don't know if that's the best move at this point.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 21 h 10
Sujet:
Rust extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Yeah just saw it on HockeyFutures. Good deal for the Pens. I honestly thought he'd get a little more than that.</div></div>
Agreed. He would have gotten 6-7 mil in free agency.
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Armchair-GM
sam. à 21 h 7
Sujet:
Rust extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Bryan Rust and Vincent Trocheck both get more money than what you are offering them.
Jeff Carter isn't waiving his NMC for Seattle.
Blues can't afford Kapanen and Pettersson, Pittsburgh would need to take Marco Scandella back at least.
Anderson for Marino is a major downgrade for the Pens.</div></div>
Rust just signed at 5.1.....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 19 h 20
Sujet:
Other suggestions 1 for 1 trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>Josh Anderson is a great power forward. Exactly what we need. Marino has been inconsistant for 2 years. Still has potential, but a change of scenery might be good for him.</div></div>
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 19 h 20
Sujet:
Other suggestions 1 for 1 trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntreDiAnaheim</b></div><div>I wouldn’t give up on Marino. But go for it I guess.</div></div>
Josh Anderson is a great power forward. Exactly what you need. Marino has been inconsistant for 2 years. Still has potential, but a change of scenery might be good for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 19 h 16
Sujet:
Other suggestions 1 for 1 trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntreDiAnaheim</b></div><div>Pittsburgh and Devils laugh at these offers.
The other two are either way.</div></div>
I disagree. As a Pens fan I love this trade, I think it's very even.
Forum:
Pittsburgh Penguins
sam. à 13 h 28
Sujet:
Josh Anderson
What would be the cost to acquire him. Love this player and think he'd be perfect
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 13 h 27
Sujet:
New GM hopefully
Agree with the Hextall point, tomfoolery is the best way to describe it. He needs a one way ticket to clowntown after that move, it's like something out of The Office. The Tanev Mccann situation is embarassing as well plus the Carter contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 8 h 15
Sujet:
New GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>You do realize chances are that new GM would be Burke and the rebuild would begin right after the cup finals.</div></div>
There is no way the new GM would be Burke. He is getting fired as well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 15 h 21
Sujet:
That hurts but dont overreact pls hextall and burke
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>It seems like a decent possibility. I hope they do</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>hextall is a notoriously slow decision maker and honestly we need someone who be prepared to make the tough decisions but in a rational way</div></div>
Agree with both of you guys here Hextall should be out. I think most people are in agreement too. Horrible miscalculation on the Mccann/Tanev nonsense last summer and the Jeff Carter contract is absurd. Also the report that he couldn't give Fenway a written plan and that it was in his head was comedy. It's like stuff from The Office.
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Armchair-GM
mar. à 9 h 0
Sujet:
Realistic Retool READ DESCRIPTION
This team is significantly worse than this years team, idk if they even make the playoffs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai à 21 h 3
Sujet:
Penguins realistic rebuild
I respect the effort here but those trades are absolutely abysmal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai à 11 h 37
Sujet:
Is Hextall Gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>You are totally missing my point. Hextall is not the one making the actual final decisions.</div></div>
Who is then? What is there to suggest he isn't? He's the GM he can do what he wants
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai à 11 h 17
Sujet:
My pens next season
This is a slightly worse version of this years team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai à 10 h 5
Sujet:
Remain competitive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>The team "needs" physicality because it has been constructed per Sullivan's wants. The team that you made is not going to work with Sullivan.
Since Sullivan got to Pittsburgh, players that play physically get less ice time then get moved, in short order. The team doesn't "need" physicality, it lacks physicality by Sullivan design.</div></div>
I think it needs physicality. This is my ACGM and what I think we should do not Sullivans. I would tell him this is the direction we're going and you have to adapt to it. Give him the chance to come back, but explain the dynamic of the team will be different.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai à 10 h 4
Sujet:
Is Hextall Gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>br6067</b></div><div>I don't know I feel its a bit harsh on Hextall. Rutherford left with this team no assets and some bad contracts. McCann sure in hindsight looks worse but I think McGinn is solid and Heinen was a good pick up for the price. Honestly the only major terrible move was resigning Carter. Cap space has a lot to do with it. We have none so the player poll is very limited in who the pens could have offered. The pens outplayed the Rangers for much of this series. You can't take into account the goaltending situation like that in game one and having to rely on your 3rd stringer (not saying that was the only issue).</div></div>
Well reports are coming out new ownership dosen't trust him and he could be gone.
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Armchair-GM
16 mai à 10 h 3
Sujet:
Is Hextall Gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>I am talking about them being tied as in them not being permitted to make moves that they want to make.
"Burke said they wanted to bring more physicality and they brought none." Exactly. They wanted to make moves, do remake the team, and they were not permitted to.
They moved McCann for contract reasons and Tanev was the expansion pick, he was not lost for nothing. They opened $6M cap space and made Sullivan happy.</div></div>
They opened up 6 mil in cap space and did nothing with it. It's not just what they've done on the Pens, I don't like how he built the Flyers. He is way too patient, and I don't think has the right mindset. And how would you explain the Carter contract, it was inexcusable.
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