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Trade for 2C

Créé par: dtd_tank
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 27 mars 2023
Publié: 27 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Possibly undervaluing Hayton a bit here, but he hasn't shown much offensive flash yet. Basically using our well-stocked cabinet to stock up ARI's for a higher-value piece.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
24 000 000 $
Transactions
ARI
  1. Lombardi, Amadeus
  2. Mastrosimone, Robert [Liste de réserve]
  3. Veleno, Joseph [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $61 714 722 $0 $5 340 000 $21 785 278 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 775 000 $1 775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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878 333 $878 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 25
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I don't mind the player but not in this deal.
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 26
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Wings giving up too much here
27 mars 2023 à 12 h 30
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massive overpay for Hayton
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 30
#4
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Quoting: buffbry
Wings giving up too much here


Mastro is more of a formality. He's not re-signing here and is an ASU student. We're losing him regardless.

Lombardi is an OHL over-ager. He's had a great year, yes, but hasn't proved anything at the professional level. He's unlikely to be a top 6 NHLer.

Veleno + 18ish overall is basically what this boils down to IMO.
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 34
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Mastro is more of a formality. He's not re-signing here and is an ASU student. We're losing him regardless.

Lombardi is an OHL over-ager. He's had a great year, yes, but hasn't proved anything at the professional level. He's unlikely to be a top 6 NHLer.

Veleno + 18ish overall is basically what this boils down to IMO.


How do you know mastro isn't signing? He just transferred to asu this year to get more playing time and the red wings supported his transfer.

Hayton hasn't done anything before moving up to the top line this year really. It's a big overpayment.

The first is a none starter for him
Lombardi is only an overeager because of COVID and the years he lost
Mastro can resign
Veleno is good for us especially if he develops more.

Prob wouldn't even consider half of this going for him, maybe veleno/mastro and that's it
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 38
#6
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Phoenix doesn't touch this deal. Just nothing in it for them to say yes. Veleno isn't an improvement, the pick drafted likely isn't an improvement and they lose a guy who looks like a solid 200ft 2C
27 mars 2023 à 12 h 44
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I dont hate this, but dont like including Veleno and the 1st. If he was RH I'd be more inclined.

Moving Mastro and Lombardi is meaningless, but ARZ has no reason to say yes to this.
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 48
#8
PlusMinus is stupid
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Why do you hate the Red Wings?
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27 mars 2023 à 12 h 52
#9
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Coyotes at more of a stage to be building on there small established nucleus than adding more picks and future, got to start building back at some point and the whole squad can’t be 22 when you try it. Could see some more capdumps and picks coming, but 5/6 guys are in it til turns around and it seems like hayton is one of them. Probably doesn’t move the line enough for the wings either for the package.
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27 mars 2023 à 13 h 16
#10
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if/ when the wings trade prospects it will be LHD. They have some really good prospects there with out enough spots for them in the lineup.
27 mars 2023 à 13 h 38
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dont see why Arizona does this. Hayton has finally found his game and looks great with Keller/Schmaltz. I just dont think they trade a young player at this point, they can only rebuild for so long
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27 mars 2023 à 13 h 45
#12
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Quoting: buffbry
How do you know mastro isn't signing? He just transferred to asu this year to get more playing time and the red wings supported his transfer.

Hayton hasn't done anything before moving up to the top line this year really. It's a big overpayment.

The first is a none starter for him
Lombardi is only an overeager because of COVID and the years he lost
Mastro can resign
Veleno is good for us especially if he develops more.

Prob wouldn't even consider half of this going for him, maybe veleno/mastro and that's it


I've read mastro not signing in a couple places recently. His coach I believe made a comment that he's had a lot of teams sending out feelers to him and he hinted at him even returning to Arizona for another year.
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27 mars 2023 à 13 h 54
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LOL Talk about a major overpay on Hayton shakes head

Lombardi is only an overager due to the fact that he missed out on his 16th age year plus Covid shut down the OHL in his 17th year. But his 18th year was close to a point per game. Plus look at what he's done this season. That's hardly being an overager.
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27 mars 2023 à 16 h 13
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Hayton is in the core of Arizona's rebuild. I don't see them trading a cost-controlled RFA who still has a lot of upside for a bunch of spare parts and a 1st round pick.
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27 mars 2023 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I've read mastro not signing in a couple places recently. His coach I believe made a comment that he's had a lot of teams sending out feelers to him and he hinted at him even returning to Arizona for another year.


I just heard it on winged wheel podcast today, not sure why the coach would come out and say that though and if it's true then sure they can trade his rights. It's still an overpayment for this player
 
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