Don't worry, if Matthews leaves, they'll just get McDavid when he becomes a UFA

As an aside from the little reports out there I'm somewhat hopeful we'll be able to say amirov HAD brain cancer instead of has soon... Poor guy

Interesting on niemela, I've been higher on him entering this year but essentially haven't heard much this year. Who gave him that outlook? Is that a wheeler quote?

Tragic story and I feel bad but I highly doubt he ever plays NHL hockey after something like that. Hopefully I'm wrong

Yeah, per wheeler "He projects as a No. 4-5 at his ceiling and a No. 6-7 at his floor."

I'm a huge Leafs fan. It's quite possible none of those guys ever play over 100 NHL games. It's quite probable none of them are more than okay 3rd liners on a good day.

McMann looked good at times, but we have to remember he's almost 27. The amount of nhlers that have done anything notable with under 10 NHL games played at his age is quite slim...

I like Steeves but even I admit every organization has guys like Steeves and abruzzese. They're those NHL tweeners

I've been impressed by Holmberg, but I think we need to recognize his NHL upside is likely engvall...

SDA has a tiny chance to being an offensive nhler but likely will be like abruzzese and Steeves.

Gotcha. Dang. I was pretty hopeful a couple years back when he was dominating the world Juniors. But the lack of progress this year was not a great sign.

He has not been great this year fs, arguably taken a step backwards rather than forwards

I'll be glad if he's healthy. Poor kid. It sounds like the Leafs are helping with his care which makes me happy. If he has a significant hockey career (let alone NHL) and is healthy that's all bonus

If you read the context of the original argument, it was that the Leafs "have a terrible prospect pool".

My point was... No they don't. They actually have a pretty good prospect pool.
Anyone can point at a B level prospect and say they aren't going to make it...

Between Knies, Niemela, Hirvonen, Minten, Robertson, Grebyonkin, Amirov, Kral, Steeves, Mcmann, Holmberg, SDA, Voit, Abruzzese, etc.... the Leafs have a good crop.
Not saying its a top system, but way deeper than most contending teams, especially in our division.

I think most rankings I've seen out them around high teens low 20s which is probably fair. It's not great it's not terrible. Low end of average.

Who would have thought that making the playoffs every year, trading 1st round picks to help make a run and drafting late would leave you with less "superstar" prospects.

Crazy concept.

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or trying to say I'm dumb. I obviously agree.

I think we have trade a moderate amount of futures and have actually drafted quite well for our spots (all of sandin (graduated), niemela, knies, moldenhauser, Robertson, are trending quite well for their draft position)

Not saying you're dumb at all.

Just saying there's a reason why TOR's prospect pool wouldn't rank high in comparison to others. Very similar to other contending teams.

A lot of teams are clearing out all their high draft picks these days. When looked at in isolation, most of these trades make sense, until you turn around and realize the cupboard is bare. The cumulative effect of trading all your draft picks doesn’t seem like a sustainable way to run a team. It’ll be interesting to see what these teams do to restock when the time comes. They could sign UFAs, but you’re not likely to find many bargains on that market. Will there be bidding wars for undrafted players? Will they try to trade roster players for draft picks? Will they take on cap dumps in return for picks or prospects? I guess they have a few options. I’m curious to see how well they’ll work.

Is McCabe and Lafferty better than the Leafs they replaced? I dunno.

Its been 1 game relax lul

Teams got new guys need to mesh it takes time

I know but is McCabe an improvement over Sandin? Gee, the Leafs are carrying 9 NHL Dmen, I like depth but geez how do nine guys mesh?

One game is not enough time to judge hes on a new team with a new partner in a new system

Takes time to adjust

Sandin grew up in the system, McCabe was with CHI and BUF 2 different teams with Diff systems. He will adjust

You mean Engvall and Sandin? I think they should be once they get settled. I haven't seen either of them play much, but it sounds like they play more of a playoff style, which is what the Leafs wanted most. I remember thinking Lafferty was annoying when he was with Chicago, so that's probably a good thing.

I suspect Timmins will spend the rest of the season in the press box now that they have Gustafsson. That still leaves one too many but they say Dubas isn't done dealing. One defenseman out and one more forward in would be about right, though I'd feel better if they got some goalie insurance. I'm disappointed they didn't get Korpisalo, but LA needed him more.

Certainly the Leafs could go with 9 Dman, but as you suggest more likely eight. They can't waiver any Dmen, but they do have three forwards with the Marlies they could bring in case of injury Holmberg, Steeves, and McCann who all three can be go back with forth if cap allows.

Leafs dont need a goalie

Sammy is a monster at home 17-2-1

Murray a road warrior 8-3-1

Then u got Wall whose peaking in

Neither Anderson nor Gogolev have any trade value.

Lafferty is worth about a 4th round pick.

With that, a 5th + a 4th + a 3rd at best is worth a late 2nd, more or less.



When you narrow it down, it's a Top 10 protected 1st round pick in 2025 for McCabe + 50% retention.



Chicago is retaining on McCabe until 2025 ...

However ...

The only two players on the Leafs signed thru 2025 are Morgan Rielly and Calle Jarnkrok.

We could be looking at a completely different Leafs team then.



This could go either way.

Fair deal.

McCabe, 1000000% yes. Lafferty, yes, but not by much