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Bolstering the blue line at deadline - Agressive move draft night

Créé par: Mattkenn
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2023
Publié: 22 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is next years outlook following a couple deadline moves and an agressive move during draft night.

Deadline:

Trade 1: Get rid of Zaitsev. Anywhere.

Trade 2: Brannstrom + for Peeke.

Columbus is loaded on the right side. They could use some help on the left.
Brannstrom is having a sneaky good defensive year... and the talent is still there.
Defintely worth a shot for columbus... I can still see him turning into ryan ellis type D.

Trade 3: Edmundson for 2024 1st round pick... Call it a ''rental in advance''.

Chiarot, Savard rentals have gone for 1st rounders.
Montreal locks in that return in advance.
Ottawa gets a full a full year of edmundson retained.

Trade 4 during draft: Hellebuyck for a ****load

Trade 3 means Ottawa is all In in 2024... may as well trade their 2023 pick also.
Cap will rise during 2024-2025 season + 5.5m of dead money coming off the books, they will have the means to extend Him.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
22 500 000 $
88 125 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
2.
OTT
CHI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
3.
OTT
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
4.
OTT
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 083 333 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de NYR
2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $80 670 714 $0 $1 850 000 $2 829 286 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 083 334 $3 083 334 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
-875 000 $-875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA

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22 févr. 2023 à 10 h 56
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ottawa going all in just to possibly make the playoffs is a great idea
22 févr. 2023 à 10 h 56
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Mtl say yesssssssssss

With thoes trades, they can't sing any good player this summer and they suck next year.
22 févr. 2023 à 11 h 1
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is the Winnipeg trade serious?
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Jackets easily decline
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
ottawa going all in just to possibly make the playoffs is a great idea


Ottawa has one of the most potent offense this year. They lack Goaltending and Defenseman. These trade make them a sure thing to make the playoffs. Who Knows what happens then.
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is the Winnipeg trade serious?


A pick between 10 and 15 + a 2nd for salary retention + our top prosepct (not on the team yet) what more would you want for a UFA bound goalie?
22 févr. 2023 à 11 h 12
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Jackets easily decline


I think the trade straight up is fair but I understand Columbus needs aditional incentive. Would a 2nd instead of a 4th do it?
22 févr. 2023 à 11 h 15
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I think the trade straight up is fair but I understand Columbus needs aditional incentive. Would a 2nd instead of a 4th do it?

No. We need defensive defensemen and have a metric f***ton of offensive blueliners already. Brannstrom's just noise here. So the whole basis of your proposal just doesn't work for us.
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No. We need defensive defensemen and have a metric f***ton of offensive blueliners already. Brannstrom's just noise here. So the whole basis of your proposal just doesn't work for us.


Fair enough, but consider the following:

1. You talk about a metric ****ton... but have you looked at brannstrom actual defensive metrics? He actually has good data backing up his defensive play, albeit in low usage. I take him over Jake Bean or Boqvist any day.

2. I understand Peeke brings much needed defensive stability. And seeing him leave would leave a gaping hole.. so can i interest you in Zaitsev and an additional 2nd for the troubles?
22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 4
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Lol. That Winnipeg trade. A first and a pile of nothing for a retained, elite goalie.awesome face
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I find it hard to believe that a small-market team like Winnipeg is going to retain 50% on Hellebuyck, especially inasmuch as he's owed $7.5 million in his last season. And that's without even considering the fact that Winnipeg is actually IN a playoff spot right now, not merely pretending to one, so why they would give up their elite goalie with another year of contention ahead of them otherwise is a mystery to me.
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Quoting: Viqsi
No. We need defensive defensemen and have a metric f***ton of offensive blueliners already. Brannstrom's just noise here. So the whole basis of your proposal just doesn't work for us.


Quoting: Mattkenn
Fair enough, but consider the following:

1. You talk about a metric ****ton... but have you looked at brannstrom actual defensive metrics? He actually has good data backing up his defensive play, albeit in low usage. I take him over Jake Bean or Boqvist any day.

2. I understand Peeke brings much needed defensive stability. And seeing him leave would leave a gaping hole.. so can i interest you in Zaitsev and an additional 2nd for the troubles?


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Peeke is highly overrated by Jackets fans, he's more Gudbranson-lite than a true shutdown D-man like a Muzzin or Carlo type. For D-men playing 400+ minutes, he's basically tied for last on CBJ for on-ice xG for % (38.7%, Gavrikov has 38.4%), and is 181st in the league (OUT OF 198!!!) in the same metric according to Moneypuck. (Boqvist is 14th in the league by the way, up there with McAvoy and Heiskanen. Brannstrom is at 53.2%). Peeke is extremely similar to Gudbranson, except he can shoot a little better, blocks more shots, and takes fewer penalties. But the same criticisms we always have for Gudbranson (too slow, not physical enough, can't get out of his own end) apply to Peeke as well, but we overlook them because, why? He's not overpaid and still relatively young?

He sits back, gets out-worked and out-maneuvered for pucks, then gets trapped in the D-zone and can't get out. That forces him to block a ton of shots and eat a lot of minutes. Eventually teams work the puck around him to get high-danger shots. That's not a defensive D-man, good defensive D-men actually take the puck away (Peeke has 12 on the year, Gudbranson has 9, Gavrikov 19, Brannstrom has 20...Carlo has 21).

Jake Bean hasn't played enough this year to be a good comparison, but I'm certainly not taking Brannstrom over Boqvist. However, you take Brannstrom (who actually fills a positional need on LD) over Peeke every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Boqvist is finally playing up to potential, and Gudbranson's contract is immoveable, so Peeke is probably the actual odd-man out in Columbus.

Set up your pairs next year to be Z-Jiricek, Brannstrom-Boqvist, Bean-Blankenburg/Gudbranson. Focus on takeaways and moving the puck instead of the outdated human-pylon people-moving style that we're so obsessed by for some reason and clearly doesn't work.

TL;DR: Columbus gets the better, younger, more-roster-fitting player in this deal, and get paid a 4th to do so. As a Columbus fan, I take this every time.
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Peeke is highly overrated by Jackets fans, he's more Gudbranson-lite than a true shutdown D-man like a Muzzin or Carlo type. For D-men playing 400+ minutes, he's basically tied for last on CBJ for on-ice xG for % (38.7%, Gavrikov has 38.4%), and is 181st in the league (OUT OF 198!!!) in the same metric according to Moneypuck. (Boqvist is 14th in the league by the way, up there with McAvoy and Heiskanen. Brannstrom is at 53.2%). Peeke is extremely similar to Gudbranson, except he can shoot a little better, blocks more shots, and takes fewer penalties. But the same criticisms we always have for Gudbranson (too slow, not physical enough, can't get out of his own end) apply to Peeke as well, but we overlook them because, why? He's not overpaid and still relatively young?

He sits back, gets out-worked and out-maneuvered for pucks, then gets trapped in the D-zone and can't get out. That forces him to block a ton of shots and eat a lot of minutes. Eventually teams work the puck around him to get high-danger shots. That's not a defensive D-man, good defensive D-men actually take the puck away (Peeke has 12 on the year, Gudbranson has 9, Gavrikov 19, Brannstrom has 20...Carlo has 21).

Jake Bean hasn't played enough this year to be a good comparison, but I'm certainly not taking Brannstrom over Boqvist. However, you take Brannstrom (who actually fills a positional need on LD) over Peeke every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Boqvist is finally playing up to potential, and Gudbranson's contract is immoveable, so Peeke is probably the actual odd-man out in Columbus.

Set up your pairs next year to be Z-Jiricek, Brannstrom-Boqvist, Bean-Blankenburg/Gudbranson. Focus on takeaways and moving the puck instead of the outdated human-pylon people-moving style that we're so obsessed by for some reason and clearly doesn't work.

TL;DR: Columbus gets the better, younger, more-roster-fitting player in this deal, and get paid a 4th to do so. As a Columbus fan, I take this every time.


I'm with you on this. Add in Peeke's tendency toward taking stupid penalties... I'm not sure I will miss him.
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