Drury can't afford him and won't pay that for a rental.

With protection on the 1st, I think DET would accept (as much as I would not want to move Ras, and would prefer to move Fabbri or Vrana to give better cap maneuverability).

Why are Toronto and NJ paying more...

If your going by prospect position teams dont do that much anymore they go by performance.

As in Toronto's case your sending a top young LD who can play top 4, a 1st, and Knies whose a low A level prospect now. Vs. Other teams its young wing, first and 2nd (besides NJ)

Not going into if these teams would want to trade these guys, or if they are even a fit/looking to add at wing (for instance, I think the NYR are not doing an add like this), but this seems somewhat right. I don't know if Detroit and Buffalo higher picks exactly offset the lesser players they are giving up. I think the Toronto and New Jersey returns are better. I think the Rangers trade is by far the weakest.

Buffalo wouldn't need retention so we probably won't pay for it.
The main issue tho is buffalo isnt looking for deadline rentals. They'd only be interested if they were signing him and with skinner @ 9mil i dont see how we can afford meier and still retain guys like power, dahlin, and "insert name of any of 7 1st rnd picks here" that need big deals in the next few years. So just take them right of the list.

Really? I figured you guys wouldn't be buyers at all.

Agreed - guess it comes down to whos going to offer more/better

What? Jersey and New York are clearly trading the highest value assets assume all 1st are equal due to play off entry. Heck new york is paying double. They should be getting a 1st with meier for lafreinere not the other way around.

Depends who you ask. Honestly, right now, we have a slim chance at a WC spot. Meier could put us over the hump this year and going forward. Personally, I really want us to go in for him.

Who knows man just seeing best offers from teams

But you dont assume all is equal, you trade what you got

Some protection on the 1st and Detroit does it, but maybe the 2nd becomes a 3rd because we don't need you to eat money on Meier

Lafreniere is a wing not living up to the 1OA status. If we ignore the draft positon Sandin and Laf are the same. As Sandin is young dman whose proved he can be a top 4 Dman and Laf is a up and coming top 9 winger. All would depend on what SJS wants more a young D or Wing

What? You dont know what you've got. If detroit doesnt make the playoffs it could be 12 OA if they make a surprising run because of absurd goaltending or chemisty and make the conf finals its pick 28 OA. You cant judge pick value when you dont know. And you wont know until well after the trade. Plus theres 1st and seconds that two flux values. Not to mention a sudden skid from NJ could have the just miss @ 16th.

yep, Tarasenko says sorry bud

Fair enough for these teams but for a TML that pick is not sliding better than 20, same with the Rangers
NJD likely doesnt slide out of the playoffs so same for them

for meier i think you're looking at a 1st + 2nd + 3rd equivalent and most of these are way over

NJ & TOR both are amazing returns. I think the 2nd is downgraded or removed in the NJD deal

Buffalo looks a little light (could they get someone better than Rosen or throw in another prospect?) It's light compared to NJD and TOR, unless you are considering that BUF's 2023 1st will be less late than the others, then I guess it makes sense

Not sure about Detroit's. They have their own Timo fun with resigning a ~9m Larkin so doubt they are interested

I think your pushing sandins value up a bit, i can't see him ever being a top pair guy or top pp guy.
Living up to or not 1stOA holds value, hes 21 and has plenty of room to grow and plenty of contract flexibility as a peice for san jose to get back for meier he's perfect. He's definately the best prospect in any of these deals.

The reported ask is 23'1st+A grade prospect or 23'1st+two B grade prospects or 23'1st+good prospect+established young NHL player (whatever that means). What they reportedly considered "A grade" prospects was pretty insane too, and most prospects fall into B or lower. So yeah, NJD and TOR are probably overpays vs the reported ask depending on how they rank.

The Detroit return is significantly lower than all the rest. Has to be edvinsson coming back

You’re WAY off base here
The only team more linked to Meier than the Sabres is Jersey
And we’ve also been linked to Chychrun

So clearly our Management feels there is room for a big $$ addition, otherwise we wouldn’t be interested in these guys

Fully agree.

But the reported asking price is basically 3x that.

And it sounds like Jersey has walked away from Meier.

CAR, VGK, TOR, BUF are probably the remaining bidders.

What does Vegas offer? Thats tougher than Toronto cap hell