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Bouchard will not win you a Cup

Créé par: Andy_Dick
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 12 févr. 2023
Publié: 13 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Evans, Jake
MTL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Foegele, Warren
Détails additionnels:
Horrific defensive awareness wont win playoff games
2.
EDM
  1. Lafferty, Sam
  2. McCabe, Jake (1 000 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Ryan, Derek
  3. Schaefer, Reid
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Meier, Timo (3 000 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Boeser, Brock (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
5.
CBJ
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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UFA - 3
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5 150 000 $5 150 000 $
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UFA - 3
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UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
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798 000 $798 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
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RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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-875 000 $-875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1

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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 10
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ok !
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 10
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Come playoff time, Bouchard will have had only two full seasons under his belt, plus three cups of coffee. Be patient. In a couple of seasons, he could easily become your top defenseman. You guys didn't seriously expect to contend for the Cup this year, did you?
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 12
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Yeah, but that pylon you have playing beside Darnell Nurse will...
13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 15
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Come playoff time, Bouchard will have had only two full seasons under his belt, plus three cups of coffee. Be patient. In a couple of seasons, he could easily become your top defenseman. You guys didn't seriously expect to contend for the Cup this year, did you?


Did you watch Dach steal the puck off him? Embarrassing and not the first time.
13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 15
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Yeah, but that pylon you have playing beside Darnell Nurse will...


Won a Cup!
13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 26
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Did you watch Dach steal the puck off him? Embarrassing and not the first time.


It wasn't Bouchard fault. More of a Dach kind of board game where he is starting to be a beast ( Armia teaching over there). Bouchard will commit turnover like any young D-man, but if you wish to give up on him we would take a chance (Puljujarvi too if needed btw) cuz we have a coach who knows how to teach them the game. Just ask Dach about that!
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 26
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Yeah, but that pylon you have playing beside Darnell Nurse will...


That pylon as more grit that you whole d-corp pal !
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 26
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It wasn't Bouchard fault. More of a Dach kind of board game where he is starting to be a beast ( Armia teaching over there). Bouchard will commit turnover like any young D-man, but if you wish to give up on him we would take a chance (Puljujarvi too if needed btw) cuz we have a coach who knows how to teach them the game. Just ask Dach about that!


Dach isnt Datsyuk. Bouchard just sucks
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 27
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Won a Cup!


So did Bortuzzo?
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 30
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Lmao dude he's 23 cmon now and he isn't our only d-man

Also edmundson was like the 5th or 6th guy on that blues team let's relax here that Habs trade is terrible if Bouchard even gets a shred better from his age right now (He's 23)

Also San Jose probably blocks Hollands number in a second lmao
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Lmao dude he's 23 cmon now and he isn't our only d-man

Also edmundson was like the 5th or 6th guy on that blues team let's relax here that Habs trade is terrible if Bouchard even gets a shred better from his age right now (He's 23)

Also San Jose probably blocks Hollands number in a second lmao


Its 2 1sts and Broberg for Meier. What r you talking about?!
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 33
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Dach isnt Datsyuk. Bouchard just sucks


for sure, but along the board it's starting to look like Ovy in beast mode and we like it!! Don't be to rough on Bouchard the kid is doing fine.
13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 35
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Its 2 1sts and Broberg for Meier. What r you talking about?!


Yes of course on a literal level it's a great deal but I'm actually gonna use something you replied to me with earlier.

The perception of Gms, of course either of us would take that within a second but considering Meir has been pulling in Holtz +2 Firsts and a second in other mocks Weir is gonna want to maximize the value on this thing. It's an amazing deal but Weir is gonna squeeze every last piece of value out of Meir even if that means it takes until 11:59 Am et. on the tdl for him to snatch those 3/4 firsts for this guy
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13 févr. 2023 à 0 h 56
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That pylon as more grit that you whole d-corp pal !


Maybe I was harsh. Grittiness obviously serves a purpose, but he has to have better underlying numbers for acquiring him at anywhere near the price Montreal is likely asking. I'm sure his numbers would improve greatly under limited quality of competition but that's not what they need. They need a solid guy to play with Nurse, someone not necessarily flashy but can make breakouts, while limiting quality chances on net (Chychrun, Mccabe, Gudas and Ekholm). Deharnais can be that gritty guy without them having to trade a 1st.
13 févr. 2023 à 1 h 6
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Canucks pass imo. Bourgault is a nice piece, but no interest in Barrie, and Janmark doesn’t really add anything. Would rather move Boeser for picks and keep our 2nd
13 févr. 2023 à 1 h 21
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Quoting: OilersNation
Maybe I was harsh. Grittiness obviously serves a purpose, but he has to have better underlying numbers for acquiring him at anywhere near the price Montreal is likely asking. I'm sure his numbers would improve greatly under limited quality of competition but that's not what they need. They need a solid guy to play with Nurse, someone not necessarily flashy but can make breakouts, while limiting quality chances on net (Chychrun, Mccabe, Gudas and Ekholm). Deharnais can be that gritty guy without them having to trade a 1st.


Edmundson shoulder and stick can clean the net, he also block a shotload of shots, cut pass line and make a good first pass but need a supportive transition d-man wich we lack !
13 févr. 2023 à 7 h 50
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Take out the retention on McCabe and it's still a maybe.
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13 févr. 2023 à 9 h 43
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I think I'd rather keep Bemstrom. That might be sufficient bribery to do the cap swap, but I just like Bemstrom more.
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13 févr. 2023 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Come playoff time, Bouchard will have had only two full seasons under his belt, plus three cups of coffee. Be patient. In a couple of seasons, he could easily become your top defenseman. You guys didn't seriously expect to contend for the Cup this year, did you?


It would be horrendous management to not profit off the primes of the two best players in the NHL and hold on to mere potential of Bouchard who's clearly a defensive liability at this time.
13 févr. 2023 à 23 h 10
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
It would be horrendous management to not profit off the primes of the two best players in the NHL and hold on to mere potential of Bouchard who's clearly a defensive liability at this time.

Platitudinous claptrap to say that those two Canadiens will propel you to "profit of the primes of the two best players in the NHL." If you think that one more season of Joel Edmundson and two more seasons of Jack Evans are more likely to carry you to the Cup than four more seasons of Evan Bouchard, there's something wrong with you.
14 févr. 2023 à 1 h 32
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Platitudinous claptrap to say that those two Canadiens will propel you to "profit of the primes of the two best players in the NHL." If you think that one more season of Joel Edmundson and two more seasons of Jack Evans are more likely to carry you to the Cup than four more seasons of Evan Bouchard, there's something wrong with you.


lol ok
 
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