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Créé par: Shaners79
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 2 janv. 2023
Publié: 6 janv. 2023
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Let me know what you think about Gibson as a 1a/1b with Vanecek. Term is the scary thing with Gibson (and health) but when he's on he's definitely on. Meier just makes alot of sense to me.
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  1. Foote, Nolan
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  1. Gibson, John (2 000 000 $ retained)
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 27
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I feel like Holtz can be better then Meier in the future. but, Also Foote, Haula and a first. That seems like overpay to me.
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 37
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Gibson STINKS...Please look at his stats the last many years

He hasn't played over a save percent of .905 the last FOUR years...AND take on that contract as he gets older???
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 39
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Gibson STINKS...Please look at his stats the last many years


It's basically a second and Walsh for Gibson retained. Blackwood is always inquired and Johnsson is AHLER. I think it's a somewhat fair deal. Maybe a 1st instead of a 2nd
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 40
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It's basically a second and Walsh for Gibson retained. Blackwood is always inquired and Johnsson is AHLER. I think it's a somewhat fair deal. Maybe a 1st instead of a 2nd


So walk away from Blackwood and try something else than ANOTHER bad goalie!
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 41
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Way too much for Meier imo and I'm a Sharks fan.

The only concern is Holtz hasn't cracked the line up.
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 41
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So walk away from Blackwood and try something else than ANOTHER bad goalie!


Yet again, he plays on a crap team. Sure, he's not the best but Anaheim is also retaining Salary and adding on salary, soo
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 46
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Yet again, he plays on a crap team. Sure, he's not the best but Anaheim is also retaining Salary and adding on salary, soo


So Anthony Stolarz was .917 for Ana on a different Ducks team?
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 46
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If Gibson had a good team in front of him ( can't say he has had one) he can be incredible. I've seen him keep Anaheim in game the had no business being in.
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6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: myboykole
I feel like Holtz can be better then Meier in the future. but, Also Foote, Haula and a first. That seems like overpay to me.


It is a little much for Meier, and maybe Holtz can score at Meier’s pace but I don’t see him bringing the physical game that Meier does and I think that is why he’s more valuable long term
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 48
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So Anthony Stolarz was .917 for Ana on a different Ducks team?


Gibson could get better cuz he's playing on a better team. I don't think Martin Broduer would have as many wins as he had if he say played on Ottwa
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 48
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If Gibson had a good team in front of him ( can't say he has had one) he can be incredible. I've seen him keep Anaheim in game the had no business being in.


How many goalies bounce back at 30? You want Cory Schneider 2.0?
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 48
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Gibson could get better cuz he's playing on a better team. I don't think Martin Broduer would have as many wins as he had if he say played on Ottwa


How many goalies have .905 sv% going into their 30s and rebound anywhere??
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 50
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Gibson could get better cuz he's playing on a better team. I don't think Martin Broduer would have as many wins as he had if he say played on Ottwa


You also don't address at a that Gibson was bad while Stolarz was on the same team play 28gp. Not a small sample.
6 janv. 2023 à 17 h 51
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Too much for Meier and Gibson is legit awful. You argued his sv% was a product of his team, but he's deep in the negative on GSAx the last few years per both moneypuck and NST
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6 janv. 2023 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
You also don't address at a that Gibson was bad while Stolarz was on the same team play 28gp. Not a small sample.


Ah yes, yet another Gibson hater. Ignore the fact that he was good enough to get the invite to the all-star game last year. Ignore the fact that he walked into the all-star break rocking a 0.922 SV% and a 2.49 GAA. Ignore the fact that he is a genuinely great goalie who has been dragging a half competitive team at best through 50 games a year.

But please, continue to tell us how "washed up" he is. Those of us who watch him play know the reality that is not visible to a keyboard cowboy looking at internet stat blocks.
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6 janv. 2023 à 18 h 6
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Ducks aren't accepting this, not enough value. Walsh is intriguing but they don't need another undersized defenseman.
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6 janv. 2023 à 18 h 23
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Ah yes, yet another Gibson hater. Ignore the fact that he was good enough to get the invite to the all-star game last year. Ignore the fact that he walked into the all-star break rocking a 0.922 SV% and a 2.49 GAA. Ignore the fact that he is a genuinely great goalie who has been dragging a half competitive team at best through 50 games a year.

But please, continue to tell us how "washed up" he is. Those of us who watch him play know the reality that is not visible to a keyboard cowboy looking at internet stat blocks.


You can keep him. That's my stance. I don't want any goalie entering 30 making that money with an excuse of a bad team holding them back. I wouldn't care about GAA, but that isn't a Sv% that is helping the Devils as they move forward. Few goalies age well into their 30s. Silly use of assets.
6 janv. 2023 à 18 h 43
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Devils say he’ll no to the ducks trade Gibson sucks and the devils already have 2-3 solid goalies
6 janv. 2023 à 19 h 16
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Sharks should say yes, but NJ shouldn’t offer that large of a package unless an unprecedented bidding war happens and Meier is signing for 8x5aav lol
6 janv. 2023 à 21 h 11
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SJ probably would pull the trigger and trade Meier for just the 1st + Holtz + tiny sweetener.
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6 janv. 2023 à 22 h 10
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Haula is a UFA other than cap dump, why? I like the Foote and a 1st deal. Heck add another pick/prospect and we have a deal!
7 janv. 2023 à 0 h 0
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Way too much for Meier imo and I'm a Sharks fan.

The only concern is Holtz hasn't cracked the line up.


Devils have an extremely deep roster, especially with Palat coming back

He's only 20 so Im not concerned
9 janv. 2023 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: Devil
Devils have an extremely deep roster, especially with Palat coming back

He's only 20 so Im not concerned


Extremely seems like an understatement. You guys got a great team.

Regarding Holtz, the value seems all over the place depending on who you ask.
NJD is a deep team, he can't crack the line up, but he's going to be better than Meier depending on who you ask.
Can't wait for the Sharks to trade or sign him so we can move on.
 
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