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The price for Josh Anderson

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 déc. 2022
Publié: 2 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Look you may not like Anderson or his contract but GM's all over the league covet this type of player. So this is the price to acquire Josh Anderson
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The Devil's are one of the last teams in the league who will be looking to make such significant changes given their place in the standings and depth on the wings. Better targets would be Pittsburgh, Detroit, LA, Edmonton, Nashville, Calgary or Vancouver. I would have said Florida too but Montreal doesn't want to help them and decrease the value we get for their 2023 1st lol
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $68 997 499 $1 132 500 $5 277 500 $13 502 501 $
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
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875 000 $875 000 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
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828 333 $828 333 $
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766 667 $766 667 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 47
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He isn't worth that, like not at all
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2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 51
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Then you are not moving him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 52
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You forgot to include Dallas
2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 55
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People on this site really need to learn that this league is still run by an old boys club. A club that likes size and speed which are Anderson's only real assets.

This will be this year's Chairot trade, Habs fans will be yelled at for saying he has value, he will get a good return and we will be proven right, again.
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2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: oilersguy
He isn't worth that, like not at all


Sure he is, the problem with this website and commenters like this one is that they don't think like GM's. Power forwards of Anderson's ilk are highly sought after and GM's pay a premium to acquire them.
2 déc. 2022 à 10 h 58
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Rumor was at the deadline some team offered a first for him so maybe that is his value but us Devils fans don't really care. The reason we are so tried of the trade ideas to the Devils is the value is way off. Our GM looks for bargains so overpaying for a bottom 6 winger, which he would be on the Devils , isn't something our GM would do. Our GM has also said multiple times he doesn't like in season trades or trading away our 1st.
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Then you are not moving him. 🤷🏻‍♂️


There in lies the rub, the Habs are not interested in trading him, it's fans on this site that are. The Habs have already gotten "good" offers for him and turned them down.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 0
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Rumor was at the deadline some team offered a first for him so maybe that is his value but us Devils fans don't really care. The reason we are so tried of the trade ideas to the Devils is the value is way off. Our GM looks for bargains so overpaying for a bottom 6 winger, which he would be on the Devils , isn't something our GM would do. Our GM has also said multiple times he doesn't like in season trades or trading away our 1st.


I was literally saying that the Devil's should not be making any significant trades let alone one for Josh.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 1
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Quoting: Campabee
Sure he is, the problem with this website and commenters like this one is that they don't think like GM's. Power forwards of Anderson's ilk are highly sought after and GM's pay a premium to acquire them.


he is 3rd line forward making 5mil for the next few years. forwards who have scored 20 goals once 5 years ago are not worth this. and Reaves just when to the wild for a 5th round pick and the Oilers got Klim Kostin (a much younger power forward with more potential) for a AHL Dman
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Quoting: Campabee
Sure he is, the problem with this website and commenters like this one is that they don't think like GM's. Power forwards of Anderson's ilk are highly sought after and GM's pay a premium to acquire them.


Not with his contract. His production is 3rd line level. 30-35 points. He’s injury prone. Terrible contract. So no he isn’t.

If he was 2.5-3.5m…sure.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 20
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Josh Anderson ($2 million retained)

For

Josh Filmon
2023 2nd round pick

Would be a realistic offer that helps the Habs. But Devils could do better with their 1st, 3rd and that cap space.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
People on this site really need to learn that this league is still run by an old boys club. A club that likes size and speed which are Anderson's only real assets.

This will be this year's Chairot trade, Habs fans will be yelled at for saying he has value, he will get a good return and we will be proven right, again.


There's a big big difference between trading for a bruising defenseman who was doing his job making 1.75 million after retention for three months and trading for a power forward who isn't scoring that makes 5.5mil for three months + 4 more years
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he is 3rd line forward making 5mil for the next few years. forwards who have scored 20 goals once 5 years ago are not worth this. and Reaves just when to the wild for a 5th round pick and the Oilers got Klim Kostin (a much younger power forward with more potential) for a AHL Dman


Comping Reeves to Anderson is like comping Suzuki to McDavid LMAO and Kostin's ceiling is not as high as you might like to believe, 23 years old 4 years since his draft and has only managed to put up 12 points in 54 NHL games, even his AHL numbers are not that impressive. A better comp would be Tom Wilson or Patrick Maroon, both at least have similar numbers to Anderson over their careers. Marroon is 0.41 PPG, Wilson has 0.42 PPG and Anderson has 0.43 PPG. Anderson is the same age as Wilson as well, do you think the Caps move Wilson for less than a 1st?
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Josh Anderson ($2 million retained)

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Josh Filmon
2023 2nd round pick

Would be a realistic offer that helps the Habs. But Devils could do better with their 1st, 3rd and that cap space.


Montreal will not retain for 5 years
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 28
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Not with his contract. His production is 3rd line level. 30-35 points. He’s injury prone. Terrible contract. So no he isn’t.

If he was 2.5-3.5m…sure.


So then I imagine you think Wilson is an overpaid 3rd liner as well right?! Same age, same career numbers, same injury history, similar cap hit and same playing style.
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There's a big big difference between trading for a bruising defenseman who was doing his job making 1.75 million after retention for three months and trading for a power forward who isn't scoring that makes 5.5mil for three months + 4 more years


Would you do it for Tom Wilson?
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 30
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Montreal will not retain for 5 years


Only options to bring down AAV are (a) retain for 5 years or (b) take back 5 years of dead weight on another contract. The Devils don’t have the latter, so it would have to be retention.
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Only options to bring down AAV are (a) retain for 5 years or (b) take back 5 years of dead weight on another contract. The Devils don’t have the latter, so it would have to be retention.


Kent Hughes will not retain anything. He's in no rush to trade anyone.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 35
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Comping Reeves to Anderson is like comping Suzuki to McDavid LMAO and Kostin's ceiling is not as high as you might like to believe, 23 years old 4 years since his draft and has only managed to put up 12 points in 54 NHL games, even his AHL numbers are not that impressive. A better comp would be Tom Wilson or Patrick Maroon, both at least have similar numbers to Anderson over their careers. Marroon is 0.41 PPG, Wilson has 0.42 PPG and Anderson has 0.43 PPG. Anderson is the same age as Wilson as well, do you think the Caps move Wilson for less than a 1st?


Maroon makes $1m
Wilson scored 52 pts last year, has one year left.

Not great comps
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2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 37
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Would you do it for Tom Wilson?


If we're assuming he's fully healthy then yeah probably, but Tom Wilson has scored 20 goals three of the last four seasons (and the one he didn't was the covid season, where he was still on pace for 20 goals). Anderson has not been nearly as consistent in recent years. Anderson was pretty good last year and Wilson still had 20 more points than him. He makes less, and for only one more year beyond this. He has solid defensive impacts when Anderson does not. They're similar players but one is performing better and isn't a commitment into a guy's thirties.
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
Kent Hughes will not retain anything. He's in no rush to trade anyone.


He has been shopping his players around, saying he wants another pick for 2023. He is very much in a rush.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
People on this site really need to learn that this league is still run by an old boys club. A club that likes size and speed which are Anderson's only real assets.

This will be this year's Chairot trade, Habs fans will be yelled at for saying he has value, he will get a good return and we will be proven right, again.


chiarot had one year left and was a rental with the physical characteristics GMs dream of, even though he sucks and we saw that in florida and are seeing it again in detroit. anderson is getting paid far too much for far too long to have this kind of trade value. the tom wilson comparison you made is laughable, wilson is a far better player
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
There's a big big difference between trading for a bruising defenseman who was doing his job making 1.75 million after retention for three months and trading for a power forward who isn't scoring that makes 5.5mil for three months + 4 more years


Was using it more as a comparable in the media talk way, experts say he has value and is a trade able asset, people on this site say he isn't, then he gets a decent return.

Happened with Chairot, is currently happening to Anderson
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
He has been shopping his players around, saying he wants another pick for 2023. He is very much in a rush.


It doesn't mean he's liquidating his assets. We all know which players will eventually get traded but we don't know the timeframe and he's in no rush to create cap space.
2 déc. 2022 à 11 h 43
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Quoting: bagelbob
chiarot had one year left and was a rental with the physical characteristics GMs dream of, even though he sucks and we saw that in florida and are seeing it again in detroit. anderson is getting paid far too much for far too long to have this kind of trade value. the tom wilson comparison you made is laughable, wilson is a far better player


I never made a Tom Wilson comparison...... And it's hard to compare to a current player who is on IR. Careers and play style are similar though.
 
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