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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures

Sujet: why not short term for johnny and big trade with yotes

Career year and potentially the best time in his career he's going to get to negotiate a contract. Who knows if he ever hits 115 points again. He's done his time and has earned a 7 or 8 year contract wherever he ends up.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures

Sujet: Ledge and dairy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Tkachuk can go to arbitration and walk, or take his QO and walk. He has plenty of leverage.</div></div>

Not 10.5M worth of leverage

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures

Sujet: Ledge and dairy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>Because tkachuk is younger and better?</div></div>

Sure he's younger, over the past bunch of years where they've both had career years and career low years Gaudreau has consistently been better. Tkachuk is still and RFA, Gaudreau could go to market, there's no reason to pay Tkachuk 10.5M if Gaudreau is getting 9.5.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 16 heures

Sujet: Ledge and dairy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I believe I did pay them appropriately.</div></div>

Mangiapane will be between 5 - 5.5, McCann is one of his best statistical comparisons and he plays C, I think that's the best baseline for a Mangipane deal out there. Kylington should be getting a 1 year deal under $2M, Treliving is notoriously good at RFA deals and I dont think he gives a guy with three quarters of a good NHL season under his belt more than a 1 year show me deal, if it's longer than 1 years he's walked to UFA and he's not worth a long term deal yet. Carpenter, Lewis or frankly anyone that is filling in 4th line spots should be PTO's and paid what they were paid similar to last year which would be 800K or less. If they really want more than Walker Duher can play the same role. Tkachuk getting 10.5 is too much. If Gaudreau is coming in at the rumoured 9.5 why would Tkachuk be getting a million more per year than the teams top point getting?

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures

Sujet: Ledge and dairy

If you paid Mangiapane, Tkachuk, Kylington, Carpenter, Lewis appropriately it would definitely work just moving Lucic. Valimaki is likely moved as well as the organization seems to have taken to Mackey and left Valimaki as the odd man out at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin à 16 h 40

Sujet: Johnathan Walkerthon

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>Maybe...</div></div>

I think it could certainly be out bid but it's the most I would want to see given up. I got a real crush on Coronato to so this package would hurt my heart.

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin à 15 h 31

Sujet: Holland with a brain

If Forsberg was getting 8M a year would he not already be signed in Nashville?

Forum: Armchair-GM28 juin à 15 h 19

Sujet: If Tkachuk does not in fact want to sign long term rumors on St Louis

I mean Wright may not even go 1 overall and you're moving mountains to acquire the pick to get him? Makes no sense.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin à 12 h 12

Sujet: Tough days ahead for the PEG

I think the Flames would want more in that deal. If it were up to me I would do it though. Probably pretty close.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin à 10 h 40

Sujet: Realistic Offseason - Few Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I think if Guddy wants more than what he got this year we look elsewhere. There are options for the 3rd pair that are for PK'ing and are cheap.

The Pelletier situation is weird here. I see it similar to how Dube came in. May not even start on the team but I hope he makes it out of camp. Personally i would swap him and Dube on their respective lines. As I said in the description I think the 2nd through 4th line are very interchangeable.

The only thing i whole heartedly disagree with you here is separating 11 and 20. There synergy is spectacular.

I could totally see this though
13-28-19
88-23-73 (this line actually had excellent numbers)
JP-11-20
29-63-22</div></div>

Fair enough, I guess the lines all depend on who you see making that line click. Coleman and Backlund are great together but I think the pairing of Mangiapane and Backlund are more of a threat and work better. Strictly the eye test, either or is a good option really. This team has no problems in the middle 6 if Monahan half returns to form.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin à 10 h 19

Sujet: Realistic Offseason - Few Changes

Probalby pretty realistic for what this management has always done, nothing wrong with that. I think Valimaki is moved and I think Gudbranson gets a bit of a raise from what you have here, I have seen your argument for it I just think that 1.5 is too low.

Do you think that they bring Pelletier in on the 4th line? Especially with Ruzicka. With Monahan being a bit of an unknown, and I fully expect him to start next season as the 3C for the Flames I think they put him with Coleman, tough to break up that second line but Toffoli and Monahan don't work for the same reason Monahan and Tkachuk were never a thing, borderline slowest line in hockey. If we are working with the roster about I think you're looking at
13-28-19
88-11-73
JP-23-20
29-63-22

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin à 10 h 12

Sujet: Realistic Offseason - Few Changes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arab05</b></div><div>Lucic is not going to retire wishful thinking though. Also, good luck trading him might have to add a 1st and 2nd to get rid of that contract.</div></div>

He nearly retired at the start of the 2020-21 season, his body is beat and he's won everything there is to win. It's not likely but certainly a possibility. He's owed next to nothing after July 1st, it's exactly the kind of contract teams looking to reach the cap floor are looking for.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin à 17 h 47

Sujet: Big Decisions to make

EVery UFA outside of Gudbranson is completely unnecessary. Flames never move on from Tanev and Schiefele will cost too much to pursue.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin à 14 h 11

Sujet: Draft Slaf Sign Johnny Clean up the depth Win Finally

Gaudreau is going max term regardless of where. If he signs for 6 he is 35 at the end of that contract. Unlikely he gets another deal north of 9M at that point leaving nearly 20M in career earnings on the table. Makes Calgary's 8 years very attractive at 9.75M but on a 7 year deal you have to think he's north of 10 at least.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin à 12 h 50

Sujet: Caller to Stauffs show Idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GordM85</b></div><div>did they change CBA after that to address....not sure on that, would make sense they addressed it, but if not, something that needs to be explored</div></div>

I think they put a rule in after Orpik, I could be completely wrong. Flames had some issues with it as well when they bought out Stone at 3.5M then re signed him a month later to the league minimum so really none of it makes sense. Only reason I think it's a problem is because I asked if the same could be done for a guy like Monahan but it was shut down pretty quick due to cap rules.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin à 12 h 44

Sujet: Caller to Stauffs show Idea

Is that not pretty cut and dry cap circumvention after the Brooks Orpik incident?

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 15 h 16

Sujet: Blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AJax_</b></div><div>Gaudreaux gets $1M more each year. Tkuck gets $500k more each year</div></div>

No. Not in Calgary they don't.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin à 13 h 21

Sujet: FlamesCapHell

I mean if you pay them all appropriately then it's as simple as moving Dube or Valimaki. 3 of those guys on the roster won't be in the NHL, Monahan will be playing so that's another roster spot. There's really no cap hell at all. It's tight but it's veeeerrry far from a cap hell.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin à 18 h 28

Sujet: Big trades for major changes

Calgary bringing in 5.75M worth of contracts that run way too long makes no sense. That doesn't create cap relief whatsoever.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin à 17 h 1

Sujet: Anderson trades again

Flames don't go near that. They got their guy without giving up Pelletier, they're not going to revisit Montreal for Anderson on a much worse deal for way too long.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin à 14 h 31

Sujet: Rocks and Shoals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Okay, but you sure Pelletier is ready? I think if Gaudreau doesn't get 8 years of term, his AAV is going to be 10+ million for sure</div></div>

For sure, Pelletier was great this season, likely ready to come up but there was no where to put him. If he came up the only open spot was 4LW which would be a horrible spot for an undersized rookie. If he plays middle six with one of Coleman or Backlund on his line he's in great shape to start the year in the line up. Gaudreau for sure gets 10+ without the 8th year, he gets Panarin money on the open market, on an 8 year deal he will be 10 or under I think.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin à 11 h 37

Sujet: Rocks and Shoals

I would drop Sandford move Coleman to his spot and put Pelletier on that 3rd line, I don't think both Johnny and Tkachuk come in at 10M but I also think you're low on Mangiapane, it all probably works out in the wash.
Valimaki will be very interesting to watch, I think Mackey has passed him in the depth chart and I think the Flames priorotize Mackey's game over Valimaki, wouldn't be shocked to see him shipped out this off season, he has a year long tiff eith Darryl Sutter's kind in the AHL.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juin à 13 h 8

Sujet: Contention

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>stephane_robidas</b></div><div>Pass, keep Monahan and we'll take Johnny, thanks</div></div>

Flames only have to move one of Lucic or Monahan to fit all their guys in, Dube, Valimaki could also move if there's a surprisingly big contract. The Flames move picks with Lucic before getting bent over on a Monahan trade. He likely stays in Calgary and starts the year at 3C

Forum: Armchair-GM16 juin à 17 h 19

Sujet: My offseason prediction

If that's Zadorov's price then Calgary just keeps him. Don't think Ryan gets anything in a trade either.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 juin à 15 h 13

Sujet: Whats the Cost on These Guys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dr_Invictus</b></div><div>Does this take place in a world with no CAP? You're in the hole by 6M</div></div>

Seriously?? There are three trades where Calgary is giving nothing obviously it's not cap compliant. It's also a 24 man roster and there are 8 D staring if we'd really like to nit pick.

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