Bennett for Girard is the only trade that makes sense for Florida

Bennett is a notch below Girard unfortunately.

He’s a career 35pt/ season player making 4.4milx3, a bit too rich. Heck, deduct his last seasons production and his contract looks even worse.

He has been great ever since he joined Florida. Lundell is most likely untouchable and I can’t see them trading Reinhart.

Byram is probably untouchable from COLs end too. This AGM is simply looking at teams needs and wants and I’ve identified two teams with matching holes and surpluses.

I think Lundell makes Reinhart expendable as early as next year. I think while Reinhart might have more value, Girards lower cap hit and longer contract term bridges the difference in value.

I think he's shown that he's more than that now though. 0.8 ppg/ 0.41 gpg over his 85 games as a Panther. Not saying to completely discount his years in Calgary, but he's gone from a 13-14 minute a night guy in Calgary to 17-18 in Florida. If I was the Panthers I'd consider doing it straight up, mayyyybe adding a mid round pick, but absolutely no way on the Bennett for EJ trade, and as much as I love Byram, I'd be keeping Lundell 100% of the time.

Bennett had 5 consecutive seasons without breaking 30pts than one year in FLA where he put up 49pts.

He’s far more likely to return to the mean vs last years outlier season becoming the norm.

Byram>Lundell, I doubt anyone trades for EJ, but I think the Girard-Reinhart trade has some potential

I disagree, but such is life around here I can't imagine being able to make the argument that "He wasn't good in Calgary!" would hold up. Look at a guy like Pageau when he was moved from the Sens...the return on 1 good season was outrageously hilarious. Bennett has also had a hot start to this season as well.

I think the difference here is that the Panthers get another year on Lundell's ELC, which (IMO) is more valuable to the Panthers than the jump that Byram is going to take next year, when the Panthers *still* won't have cap space.

Webster dictionary under “hot start” you’ll see reference to:
Evan Rodrigues 20-21
AJ Greer 21-22

Both superstars I don’t know what you’re talking about

I woudnt consider the Byram for Lundell deal. I dont know if Lundell has the same ceiling as Byram...which is basically Makar lite

Reinhart slander. My goodness

All things equal, I do value Byram more, however, within a moments notice, should Byram take another hit to the head, it would DRASTICALLY impact his trade value (ala Nolan Patrick)

im not concerned about the 2c at all at the moment, to me its not an issue. They can muck around with this group until the trade deadline and they will be fine, this team is so talented they will be near the top of the central and west regarldess of who is playing 2C

And I hate when people try to throw those type of caveats on players, oh maybe we should move him just in case he get hurt. Dude hes a human being and a talented hockey player, You dont treat him like a piece of currency trying to sell high bc you think he could have an injury sometime down his career. Thats not a good or healthy line of thinking

I don’t think this team will be comfortably securing a top spot in the division/conference as other Avs fans think. I think they will be slogging it out till the end (not in jeopardy of missing the playoffs, but wound be a walk in the park).

As for the “treating them as currency” and trying to “sell high”, that’s the entire point of asset management lmao. Youre going to act as if the terms “asset management”, “return on investment”, “maximizing return”, “getting top dollar”, “selling to the highest bidder” arent the most widely used and thrown around terms in this industry? These are all commonly accepted phases used. Lol the NHL is a business. This is an extremely rare Coga L take unfortunately.

They are supporting Byram, if they believe there is any fear of him having long term issues, they wouldnt be trading him, they would be doing what they can to ensure he is healthy. I truly believe the Avs are a top tier ran organization and they treat their players right. Mueller, Colin Wilson, Timmins, Byram, etc etc. They support all those players during their injury issues, they didnt cast them aside

I mean, sure, we can go by that, but we're going to completely discount Byram's injury history in the same conversation? Bennett has actually been a pretty consistent pts/60 guy + possession guy throughout his career. Nobody is going to argue that he's a point per game player, but he's a very competent 2nd liner who has shown that with increased icetime, he can increase his production at a steady rate.

What bridges the gap in value is the length of Reinharts contract vs Girards.

Lundell is untouchable and I don’t know if Colorado is willing to take on Reinhart’s contract. Bennett is the only logical choice.

Only trade that works is bennett and a pick for girard. The rest won’t happen. Reinhart is valuable to Florida and a small step above girard. And each team won’t do the byram lundell trade

The pick is going to be very high in a Bennett for Girard trade. I think Bennetts overpaid and moving him for EJ (who is also overpaid) makes sense.

When you alter the trade for an overpay (Bennett) for not (Girard) the gap in fairness quickly grows apart

I mean is bennet overpaid at the rate he’s playing now? Same can be said for girard. Guy could go to Florida and not be as good due to the system. But Johnson is not what he once was plus so your pick would be very high for a bennett for Johnson trade.

Bennetts contract when compared to his career body of work is an overpay.

Girards contract when compared to his career body of work isn’t an overpay.

The likelihood he maintains a 50pt pace (which he’s done once) is far far far less likely than him returning to his regular pace of 30pt/season ( which he’s done 3-4 times). Meaning he is more likely to not live up to the contract value. It’s quite simple.

Not really. He’s actually playing more on a more offensive team and giving the right chance to be the layer he should have always been. I’d say he stays at the 45-50 point pace for the next few years when girard is going to be a third pair d man stuck behind players better than him which is still a good thing for the Avs. But why khave to make a decision soon with the likely contracts of toews and byram. 4.5 million might be better spent than 6 million for someone who is not getting too minutes.