Huh. Never seen it hit before.
Wonder if this reply will even post...

Edit: are we certain there is a limit?

It’s an informal limit. You can go over it’s not hard on the website or something I think? @BeterChiarelli would know

Engvall gets a 1 game suspension.

Its fair

I was like its either 1 game or 5k fine.

Either way if he and Durzi were jousting should have just dropped the gloves and not be stupid. As it was like ur jousting so just go at it take the 5 each and be done

Leafs should find away to get Crouse that man is perfect for Marner and Tavares

we have a better one named Knies

not worth the assets and money you'd have to spend to get him.

he's also notoriously a slow skater which does not mesh well with Tavares at all.

Knies has no NHL experience so saying hes better or putting are hopes on him is silly.

Crouse would come in and make an immediate impact not a wait and see. As rn Crouse has 11 goals if we look at the Leafs he beats out Jarnkrok, Engvall, Kerfoot, basically the entire bottom 6 and Bunting. And with his size, speed, and ability to be on the PP and PK he would be perfect

knies isn't a guarantee you're right, but Crouse is quite possibly one of the worst options to play with Tavares. Better off doing nothing than Crouse. Tavares cannot have wingers that are slower than him, he's already a slower player. Crouse scores any goals from right in front of the net, that's JT's wheelhouse. Only thing he brings to the line is his size. Nothing else gels with that line. Just because he has 11 goals doesn't mean he's better than Bunting, who has many more points than him. And it doesn't matter anyways his fit on that line is not right. Not right on any line really, as we saw with Ritchie, this team is built to play with speed where anyone can quickly forecheck but also quickly regroup on the defensive side, quick breakouts, etc. A notoriously bad skater doesn't fit in that.

Plus now you're locked into a slower player with little in terms of proven production track record, at 4.3M when you're trying to re-sign Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and at this rate JT too. Plus give raises to Samsonov (possibly resign Murray), Sandin, Liljegren, etc

Crouse is faster than JT lul. Did u not watch him last year that man on the PK was almost as fast as Formenton on a breakaway

https://www.instagram.com/p/CfH-GfaIlBZ/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

Like put it this way rn Crouse has 11 goals in 24 games and is on pace for 35. Meanwhile none of our boyz besides the big 4 on pace for 20.

one highlight which could have a number of factors doesn't change the general consensus for years.

He took a big step this year and man on the PK was fast when needed. The PK is where he showed the most improvement as next to Formanton man that guy was interesting. Him next to JT and Marner would be nice as with Marner's passing man Kessel would be his second best passmate after that

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Like put it this way rn Crouse has 11 goals in 24 games and is on pace for 35. Meanwhile none of our boyz besides the big 4 on pace for 20.

i agree we need another scoring threat but crouse isn't the right answer

He is one of them. They will still need to add a bottom 6 but he would slot in perfectly into the top 6. As Marner would have another wing to make sweet passes to someone who has been shown to know how to finish

imagine not having the cap to resign one of Nylander or Marner or even JT because you took on that contract. No thank you. Minimal long term obligations until those guys are locked up.

crouse scores most of his goals from the same area JT does, that line needs a two way player who can be relied on to put shots on the net that aren't necessarily from right in front

Cap is increasing more than a mill after this year. By the time its 2025 and 2026 should be in the 90mill range. Tavares will make way less than hes making now as if he wants more than 11 bye. Marner probs 12mill range so 1.1 maybe 2 mill increase. Nylander look at Forsberg and go k here yah go. Leafs can afford that and bring in 4.3 mill Crouse

At the high ends, Willy could get 9-9.5, Marner could get 12-13.5 if he really wanted to, Matthews could get god knows what, 14-15 if he wants, could probably take us to the cleaners even more. These projections with the cap going up. They probably come in lower but you don't leave that to chance. Only 2 years away, if JT plays at the pace he has the last few years no reason he doesn't get minimum 7.5M, as much as 9 would be conceivable, plus Sandin, Liljegren, Samsonov, if they continue to progress the way they have, are likely looking in the 4M range. They've got some big extensions coming up that can't be jeopardized by Lawson Crouse.

You can see it in the way Dubas has been structuring contracts too. Its a large reason why he chose Murray with 2 years left on his deal, why Jarnkrok is the only forward signed past 3 years from now and Rielly the only defenceman, and so on.

At high ends but reality is if we look at Comps for Willy hes probs gonna make 8.5mill. Look at all the 7.5-8mill deals. U really gonna tell me Nylander is worth more than Forsberg rn nah.

Forsberg had 42 goals and assists in 69 games signs 8.5mill x 8 years. Nylander rn is on pace for 42 goals and 38 assists in 82 games. So sure someone can give him more but if we look at values Forsberg money is where he is

Marner 12 mill as ur not making more than McDavid

Matthews 14.34mill x 8 years

They can work it and add Crouse

Please continue on this Thread

@BeterChiarelli

Limit reached

The slowness was from 2 years ago but last year man he looked good and some of his pk breakaways were stellar

Like speed is not a huge thing. Sure some teams love it but if u add big physical guys u can counter it. But Crouse is a guy who rn has learned to combine both especially last year. But for the speed look at Engvall fast and semi useless rn. If were judging a players usefulness by speed we have sunk to far

As Crouse has 11 goals and is deemed slow and Engvall what 4 and is fast YIKES

As for Garland im moving away from him 5 on 5 hes the Canucks worst forward per new stats

Make it 12 goals lul

Moved that post over to the new thread, gotta stop using this one

Why? Theres clearly no limit and moving is a great way to lose eyes

There is a limit of 50 pages if you need to hear it from @BeterChiarelli

Also, I couldn’t give a **** how many eyes are in this lol I just wanted to talk about the Leafs with our Leaf fans and didn’t want to always do it on the “2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #6: No More Summer of Dorion” Which again has a limit of 50 pages 🤷‍♂️ No need for them to have to deal with Leaf talk all the time lol

Fair enough, but by eyes i meant leaf fans lol.
Again, never seen or heard of this limit. I follow both threads so its not that big a deal but i think you're crazy lol