AN SHL CLUB OFFERING A MULTI YEAR MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(the SHL is so poor it's actually kinda pathetic)

I think the 21/31 points prior argument could just be the fact he was 18-19, and Pettersson turned 20 in his rookies season like 10 games in. Hughes turned 20 before last season. Completely agree though.

Right now i take hughes if i had to pick. If hughes is injured again next year he isn't getting picked.

True. Only so much revenue to be generated from a country with 10m ppl.
Little incentive for owners to drastically increase spending in such a context, unlike how the KHL developed between 2005 - 2020.

Lets just remember the fact that Elias Pettersson is 23 which is considered the PRIME years of an NHL players career, he will be 24 next season. Jack hughes is 21 and will be all next season. NO ONE expects pettersson to be better than Hughes next season. Problem solved.

Elias Pettersson in his rookies season was 20 for most of it. Lets take Jack Hughes 20 year old season and compare only those 2 seasons cause that is all we can do for comparables sake.

Jack Hughes only played 49 games.
Pettersson played 71.
Jack Hughes scored 26 goals
Pettersson scored 28
Jack Hughes got 30 assists
Pettersson had 38.

Hughes numbers are not far off at all and he played 22 less games. Now add in the fact that Hughes is considered an Effective Top 6 Offensive Minded player, and Pettersson during his 20 year old season was considred a Average Sheltered Forward according to Dobbersports. I am taking Hughes, tell me Pettersson is 3 years older and I am taking hughes and your gonna pay if you want to flip those 2 players. If hughes doesn't stop getting injured though....

Albeit.



I probably would take this offer if I was the Devils, but realistically the Canucks aren't going to do this and the Devils would never have to make a choice between a Cost Controlled #1 Center or that package.

Well if you use context and similar situations, then it would be a problem. You can't go out there and compare Hughes' rookie season to Bunting's rookie season. Its unfair given that Bunting has more experience, better linemates, more ice time, etc. Same thing with Pettersson's rookie year vs Hughes.

Best way to compare them is look at their stats as 20 year olds

To add; if you value health. You have to reduce Hughes value. Yes his analytics and eye test both show superstar in the making but Elias isn’t lost and chasing that. He’s right there in superstar ability. Additionally Elias has been “healthier” and produced more.

Sure Elias ain’t perfect but ladies… Hughes did have 21 and 31 points prior. Yeah sure use the injury argument but then you also have to allow Elias the same argument plus the Boudreau factor.

I would say we need to see both players play this season. But a one for one involves both teams declining. And if one team DID offer a trade. It’s too uncertain. Would the Nucks try and trade Elias before his arb rights and potential payday for a cost controlled Hughes? Would the Devils trade for the healthier and potentially better player?

Pettersson had ONE extra year of development in the SHL. Bunting is 26, Petterssons was 19-20. That’s a hyperbolic comparison if I’ve seen one.

Probably take that offer? At worst, Pettersson and Hughes are equals. The Canucks also add Podkolzin, Hoglander, and two first round picks and you actually have to think about it? Pettersson is a franchise center which is worth probably 4 first round picks to acquire. Hughes probably similar. Now Podkolzin, Hoglander, two first round picks and a second is equivalent to 4 first round picks. Basically around 8 first round picks in value for Jack Hughes. Shouldn’t even have to think about it if the Canucks include ELIAS PETTERSSON

If there were 3-4 teams from Sweden inside a larger professional "European League" then you could see bigger budgets and financial support but right now the SHL is diluted across 14 teams; not to mention another 14 teams in Allsvenskan that promote/relegate.

That's the equivalent of the WHL trying to compete with NHL level salaries

Nothing compared to Liiga.

Our top paid players earn around 200-300k a year, if that.

Hughes has played 166/207 possible games which is little over 80%
Petterson has played 245/302 possible games which is little over 81%

Referring to "What am I supposed to do to compare them then? Not my fault they aren’t the same age. Guess we can’t compare any player in the league unless they are the same age because “well this player was drafted in this year and their rookie year was in a different year than that player”

Both had one significant injury. Pettersson despite injured and underperforming, still produced at a very good level. Hughes had one good stint. I’m sure he will be a superstar soon enough but if we call somebody a superstar based on less than 50 games now, I honestly don’t knoe

At worst, Hughes blows up to become a Top5 center in the league alongside McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon and Draisaitl. Pettersson ain't going there, but Hughes last year was filing a really strong case for himself.

I can't fault NJ fans for being extremely high on him as he's the young player that's upgraded on a yearly basis despite injuries, meanwhile Pettersson has regressed from his production at his second year. That's the key difference between the two.

Hughes has played 166/207 possible games which is little over 80%
Petterson has played 245/302 possible games which is little over 81%

At worst, Hughes blows up to become a Top5 center in the league alongside McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon and Draisaitl. Pettersson ain't going there,

Hughes despite injured and underperforming after his injury, still produced at a very good level.

It goes both ways

Do you mean at best? At worst he’s top 5 center in the league? I mean every team wishes their center was at worst top 5 I guess. I’m not sure why y’all are so down on Pettersson for. He had 49 points in 40 games in the second half of this season when he finally recovered from his injury. That’s a 100 point pace…

Pettersson has had more complete/ “fuller” seasons.



I think this is the problem with a lot of this argument.
Hughes could be a top 5C but Pettersson can’t?

Recency bias is strong here.
I mean Pettersson literally had equal to if not more hype then Hughes and fell offer but both players can be top 10 C’s. I think it’s extremely bold to say Hughes or Pettersson can be top 5C’s today. But to say one can and the other can is very one sided imo:

Pettersson has had more complete/ “fuller” seasons.



I think this is the problem with a lot of this argument.
Hughes could be a top 5C but Pettersson can’t?

Recency bias is strong here.
I mean Pettersson literally had equal to if not more hype then Hughes and fell offer but both players can be top 10 C’s. I think it’s extremely bold to say Hughes or Pettersson can be top 5C’s today. But to say one can and the other can is very one sided imo.

Again.. look at Pettersson quarters on Dobber fantasy.

For one season.

Hughes is not close to Elias in GP nor points per game (Elias has him blown out of the water if we’re using points per game).

For one season.

Hughes "fuller" season: 2/3
Pettersson "fuller" season: 3/4

Pretty close if you ask me