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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #6 - Alex DeBrincat is an Ottawa Senator

12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 24
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Sorokin 40/41 saves

Islanders lose 1-0


For sure, but im commenting on the devils choosing to chase the shiny new toy. If Gaudreau + Hamilton regress within the next few years, devils are in trouble. They could have had a definite cup window 3 years from now with no bad contracts, now they’re taking a huge risk
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 25
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such a stupid philosophy. If I could make 70k or 80k you can bet your ass I'm taking the 80k job. How do these guys leave millions on the table. It's literally impossible for it to suck to be rich anywhere


So I guess when it comes to competitiveness vs. money

Money wins

But man when he goes back to CGY with his new team the BOOS will reign from the heavens as to me with the success he had on that line I would do 10mill x 8 years all day every day.
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 26
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Quoting: Devil
Sorokin 40/41 saves

Islanders lose 1-0


And get shutout by who? Vitek Vanecek?
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 26
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i think samsonov gets a similar deal to georgiev


I feel he takes a 2 year bridge at 2mill with a competitive team, rebounds, then goes to a new team and signs a 5.5mill x 5 year deal

kind of like what Ullmark did

1 year 2.6mill then 5 mill x 4 years
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 26
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such a stupid philosophy. If I could make 70k or 80k you can bet your ass I'm taking the 80k job. How do these guys leave millions on the table. It's literally impossible for it to suck to be rich anywhere


He's going to be rich wherever he goes though. Might as well go where he wants to. I don't think it's stupid at all; do what's going to make you happy.
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 26
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 27
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So Buffalo has its tandem

Anderson 1.5mill/Subban 850k 1 way deal
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 28
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So I guess when it comes to competitiveness vs. money

Money wins

But man when he goes back to CGY with his new team the BOOS will reign from the heavens

But it's not about the money according to Seravalli. So he's leaving a cup contender to (likely) go to a non-playoff team, and taking far less money to do so. All because he'd rather drive 2 hours home than take a 7 hour flight? Make it make sense.
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: aadoyle
I feel he takes a 2 year bridge rebounds with that team then signs 5mill x 4 years with his new team. He basically is gonna go rebound so he makes way more sooner

Think of it like what Kane did

Go to Edmonton, ride Mcdavid and Draisaitl, and in FA make 6.5mill


Pointless for him to take a bridge at this point, he already took one and he performed at similar level as he did earlier.

Plus the Kane example works when you're a forward playing with McDavid. It doesn't work if you sign with Leafs in order to bolster your "defensive" numbers.

Overall the plan seems extremely counterproductive for Samsonov.
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 29
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Beats me. Maybe Grier thinks they need to bolster up their defense or something. Especially if they deal Burns.

Suffice to say that they plan to add someone after the Balcers buyout.

Honestly it's a shot in the dark.


Makes sense.

I think he’s pretty decent, I wanted Edler even tho I knew it was never gonna happen and that he was never gonna leave LA.
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: Alfie11
But it's not about the money according to Seravalli. So he's leaving a cup contender to (likely) go to a non-playoff team, and taking far less money to do so. All because he'd rather drive 2 hours home than take a 7 hour flight? Make it make sense.


How much are the taxes in Alberta compared to NJ/NY/PA? That could also play a factor
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 30
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But it's not about the money according to Seravalli. So he's leaving a cup contender to (likely) go to a non-playoff team, and taking far less money to do so. All because he'd rather drive 2 hours home than take a 7 hour flight? Make it make sense.


To me hes making the biggest mistake of his entire career as with the success he had on that line I would do 10mill x 8 years all day every day and CGY was so close.

Well anyways wonder who they replace him with as there are some good choices and while not as good they can still do some damage. Maybe Kadri?
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 30
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all aboard

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Goated response.
As some say; RATIO.
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Pointless for him to take a bridge at this point, he already took one and he performed at similar level as he did earlier.

Plus the Kane example works when you're a forward playing with McDavid. It doesn't work if you sign with Leafs in order to bolster your "defensive" numbers.

Overall the plan seems extremely counterproductive for Samsonov.


Also Malcom Subban signed a 1 way deal with Buffalo so got a feeling their tandem plan is Subban/Anderson wink
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Another goated response lol.
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Who I’d be ok with the isles signing:
Gaudreau
Burakovsky
Marchment
Perron (only on a 2 year deal less than 6 mill per)
Giroux

If Lou signs any of these players I might have to find a new team

Chiarot
Leddy
Kadri


So Blake Comeau is alright?
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 33
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So Blake Comeau is alright?


Over Leddy and Kadri? 100%
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 34
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WHOA


Hopefully him declaring that he's testing the market means his signing will be later.

For my own sake at least.
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 36
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How much are the taxes in Alberta compared to NJ/NY/PA? That could also play a factor

I'm pretty sure the taxes in NJ/NY/PA are higher than in Alberta lol. Plus he's getting paid in USD regardless, but paying living expenses in CAD, so there's that distinct advantage (1 USD is worth like 1.3 CAD).
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To me hes making the biggest mistake of his entire career as with the success he had on that line I would do 10mill x 8 years all day every day and CGY was so close.

Well anyways wonder who they replace him with as there are some good choices and while not as good they can still do some damage. Maybe Kadri?

Kadri would take most of the money, but we do need a 2C. I'm just worried that he gets 7 years at too much money given his production literally every other year of his career, and is already 32. I'd rather do Trocheck or Copp for around 5-6mil and then sign another winger so you can keep the Coleman+Backlund duo as the third line (Tkachuk-Lindholm-Toffoli / UFA-Trocheck-Mangiapane / Coleman-Backlund-Dube is something I could maybe live with).
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 37
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I'm pretty sure the taxes in NJ/NY/PA are higher than in Alberta lol. Plus he's getting paid in USD regardless, but paying living expenses in CAD, so there's that distinct advantage (1 USD is worth like 1.3 CAD).
Kadri would take most of the money, but we do need a 2C. I'm just worried that he gets 7 years at too much money given his production literally every other year of his career, and is already 32. I'd rather do Trocheck or Copp for around 5-6mil and then sign another winger so you can keep the Coleman+Backlund duo as the third line (Tkachuk-Lindholm-Toffoli / UFA-Trocheck-Mangiapane / Coleman-Backlund-Dube is something I could maybe live with).


Kadri at his age probs 8mill x 4 years as hes 33 in Oct
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 37
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Over Leddy and Kadri? 100%


Since you're accepting of Comeau going to the Islanders, I've decided to photoshop their jersey on him to see how he'd look.

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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 38
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Kadri at his age probs 8mill x 4 years as hes 33 in Oct

With the lack of centres in the NHL always, I think somebody gives him 7x7 at least. He was on pace for 100 points this year. He's gonna get overpaid for sure
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 38
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With the lack of centres in the NHL always, I think somebody gives him 7x7 at least. He was on pace for 100 points this year. He's gonna get overpaid for sure


Rangers please
12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 40
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12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 40
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But it's not about the money according to Seravalli. So he's leaving a cup contender to (likely) go to a non-playoff team, and taking far less money to do so. All because he'd rather drive 2 hours home than take a 7 hour flight? Make it make sense.


Yeah at a point I agree.

Like I get both sides.

But I can see why he’d maybe rather leave Calgary and just see what the road gives him. Like from that perspective I get it; I’ve got a good job that I can’t complain about but I can see the tastefulness in wanting to live somewhere new or be put into a new environment. I mean Calgary VS (specific not REALISTIC example) Dallas - man that’s a cool place to live imo. Or for example; maybe Tkachuk doesn’t plan to stay long term (they could be really close and have that personal info if it was on Matthews mind), and so Johnny ain’t gonna stay no shot. Not even to the Flames fault (highest rated stadium by many).

But I can also see why - yeah maybe Gaudreau and Tkachuk need to realize they could actually win a cup with the Flames - and it shouldn’t matter where your HOME is.

Tho I need to disagree with you overall.
Sometimes it’s just out of the Flames control. Like it could be there’s nothing they could do which is why it’s “emotional”; the word they used. It’s just life and seeing what’s the next chapter.
 
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