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2021-2021 NHL Discussion Thread: 25, the setup

31 mars 2022 à 22 h 23
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I explicitly said "It shouldn't matter" for that exact reason but the PWHA will literally move heaven and earth to fit a narrative.


My bad, I thought your "it shouldn't matter" was referring to the Ukraine/Russia point in the post you quoted and everything following your "but" was a different thought.

And, yeah, the voters are human and the voting doesn't take place at the conclusion of the regular season for some reason (I believe) so I could definitely see playoff success tipping the scales one way or the other.
31 mars 2022 à 22 h 23
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Tell that to justaboss, BeterChiarelli, and alfie11 who think that Allen 50% retained should return a 4th.


I don't though.

Half retained he's worth a 2nd to me. Especially after most of the UFAs have signed.
31 mars 2022 à 22 h 24
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Can’t believe after all these years Josh Manson is still just 24 years old
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 26
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Tell that to justaboss, BeterChiarelli, and alfie11 who think that Allen 50% retained should return a 4th.


Go flush your head. I'm on record saying Allen at 50% might return a 2nd.
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
It shouldn't matter but if Edmonton makes the playoffs AND beats the Kings in the first round I don't know how the PHWA doesn't give McDavid another Hart. Especially if he clears 130 points?


Hart has nothing to do with playoffs
31 mars 2022 à 22 h 29
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Man I can already see the tweet now from DOPS tomorrow

Winnipeg's Ville Heinola has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for cross checking Toronto’s Michael Bunting "IN THE HEAD"

I added that last part wink

But hey maybe Matthews did set the bar lets see shall we.
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 30
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Everyone debating Matthews and Draisaitl in the Hart convo while I’m sitting here wondering how Mason Geertsen hasn’t already run away with the award
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Hart has nothing to do with playoffs


I'm aware, Philly was all but mathematically eliminated in January.

Please direct your attention to my next post and recognize that Mark Spector runs the PHWA. Narratives are king, not logic.
31 mars 2022 à 22 h 34
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Go flush your head. I'm on record saying Allen at 50% might return a 2nd.


Quoting: BeterChiarelli
With Kassian going back in return. The package you're proposing is currently more than what Minnesota paid for Fleury and there's a crevasse-sized gap between the two netminders.

Considering this trade would happen in the summer - when goalies are in abundance - the best Montreal gets for a year of Allen is like a 4th round pick.


Keep talking
31 mars 2022 à 22 h 40
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Keep talking


Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would maybe do a 2nd for a 50% retained Allen but asking for Konovalov is still too much.


Ask yourself: do you want to play this game?
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 50
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I just trade Mackinnon in NHL 22 for Jack Hughes + Alexander Holtz + Damon Severson and 2 1sts round picks lmao. @devil
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 55
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Quoting: csick
I just trade Mackinnon in NHL 22 for Jack Hughes + Alexander Holtz + Damon Severson and 2 1sts round picks lmao. devil


All 3 Hughes bros always go nuts in franchise mode
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Everyone debating Matthews and Draisaitl in the Hart convo while I’m sitting here wondering how Mason Geertsen hasn’t already run away with the award


W

Geertsen with 67 PIMS in 23 games
And 9 SOG
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: csick
I just trade Mackinnon in NHL 22 for Jack Hughes + Alexander Holtz + Damon Severson and 2 1sts round picks lmao. devil


W

What’s Hughes rating in NHL 22 rn?
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: Devil
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What’s Hughes rating in NHL 22 rn?


90. I’m in 2023 right now
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31 mars 2022 à 22 h 58
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Quoting: csick
90. I’m in 2023 right now


He usually grows to 93 for me and Quinn 92. Brock Boeser also does very well in sims for me
31 mars 2022 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: Juiceman
He usually grows to 93 for me and Quinn 92. Brock Boeser also does very well in sims for me


Idk why but guys like Jarvis , Jack Quinn etc never cross 80
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 8
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Quoting: csick
90. I’m in 2023 right now


What about his base rating
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 13
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Quoting: csick
Idk why but guys like Jarvis , Jack Quinn etc never cross 80


Yeah usually newer prospects don’t grow well. 2021 draft class is absolutely garbage in sims. Guys like Othmann, Olauasson, Sillinger never crack the NHL
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 15
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Quoting: csick
Idk why but guys like Jarvis , Jack Quinn etc never cross 80


If they aren’t at least medium elite, they usually end up busting
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 22
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Yeah usually newer prospects don’t grow well. 2021 draft class is absolutely garbage in sims. Guys like Othmann, Olauasson, Sillinger never crack the NHL


Yeah so true. Medium guys never make it
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 30
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Ask yourself: do you want to play this game?


First you say, the most Habs get for Allen in the offseason is a 4th.
Then you say the you'd MAYBE do him for a 2nd.

Which one do you have lol?
31 mars 2022 à 23 h 34
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Just wondering, with how joel edmundson has progressed over his time in MTL, habs can get a really good offer for him.
To trade him, I think the minimum is 1st + 2nd, but I, personally would want 1st + 1st round caliber prospect .
31 mars 2022 à 23 h 36
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Do you think anyone will try to sign Dryden McKay?
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31 mars 2022 à 23 h 40
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For f*ck's sake.

Ducks with one of the luckiest bounces this season.
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