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Retooling

Créé par: arafay
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 22 mars 2022
Publié: 25 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assuming teows and Johnson waive

How is this team? The offence is really good in my opinion. And hopefully helle doesn’t get overworked next year so he’ll be good. However, the defence concerns me. I’d be looking for a big top 4 rd around tdl.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
2900 000 $
21 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
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1.
WPG
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Copp trade conditions
2.
WPG
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel [Droits de RFA]
3.
WPG
  1. Toews, Jonathan (5 250 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Chibrikov, Nikita [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
4.
WPG
  1. Johnson, Erik (3 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Retention is from 3rd team that gets a 3rd
COL
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 567 024 $0 $1 062 500 $-67 024 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 4
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 29
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Kings would rather keep Vilardi as a cheap wing RFA than take on Schmidt, if they fail on getting Chychrun, reupping Edler will be fine and a cheaper option than this.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 35
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I don't think you have to offer much for Johnson as there were plenty of conversations on having him waive for Seattle.

I wouldn't make the toews trade either. Chicago probably wants to see him retire there even if it makes a ton of sense to trade him to help with the rebuild. The other concern is that it costs to land him and he realistically doesn't get you a cup.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 37
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Winnipeg should not consider at all throwing away a 1st and Chibrikov on a Toews that is falling apart, even if they could retain 100%.

What's the logic in picking up Johnson? He's pretty low end and isn't going to be a difference maker.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
I don't think you have to offer much for Johnson as there were plenty of conversations on having him waive for Seattle.

I wouldn't make the toews trade either. Chicago probably wants to see him retire there even if it makes a ton of sense to trade him to help with the rebuild. The other concern is that it costs to land him and he realistically doesn't get you a cup.


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Winnipeg should not consider at all throwing away a 1st and Chibrikov on a Toews that is falling apart, even if they could retain 100%.

What's the logic in picking up Johnson? He's pretty low end and isn't going to be a difference maker.


He would make a very good 3c in my opinion. He’s also defensively reliable and brings a whole lot of playoff experience (reason for the 1st).
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 44
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I feel like the Johnson and toews deals make 0 sense. Why are we moving a 1st and good prospect for a pending UFA who’s aged.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 44
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He would make a very good 3c in my opinion. He’s also defensively reliable and brings a whole lot of playoff experience (reason for the 1st).


Sorry you don’t pay a 1st and solid prospect for a 3C.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 45
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Winnipeg should not consider at all throwing away a 1st and Chibrikov on a Toews that is falling apart, even if they could retain 100%.

What's the logic in picking up Johnson? He's pretty low end and isn't going to be a difference maker.


I’ve found Johnson to be a very effective defender, and he’s big, would fit well next to heinola, at least until we can bring in someone better
25 mars 2022 à 19 h 45
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He would make a very good 3c in my opinion. He’s also defensively reliable and brings a whole lot of playoff experience (reason for the 1st).


You are giving that up for a 3rd center. . . You'd be better off not and either drafting a 3rd C or grabbing someone in the offseason
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 46
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Sorry you don’t pay a 1st and solid prospect for a 3C.


Fair, but you are also paying for the leadership. Having a voice that trumps scheifele and Wheeler in the room cannot be understated. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that buff leaving coincided with this team falling apart
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 56
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The jets also see Lowry as the 3rd Center for the foreseeable future (I’m not saying I agree I’m saying this is what the jets think) I highly doubt they trade for a Center unless they move scheifele this offseason. Agree on Schmidt there’s no room for him on this team which helps samberg get in on the right side. Wheeler to 3rd line and off pp1 please.
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25 mars 2022 à 19 h 57
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Fair, but you are also paying for the leadership. Having a voice that trumps scheifele and Wheeler in the room cannot be understated. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that buff leaving coincided with this team falling apart


You really think that they’d let toews trump them? We’ve brought in cup winners before that have had no say. I think buff was the real leader of the team. They need to make wholesale leadership and coaching changes. That doesn’t mean they just strip wheels and scheif of their letters but move on from them.
25 mars 2022 à 20 h 0
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He would make a very good 3c in my opinion. He’s also defensively reliable and brings a whole lot of playoff experience (reason for the 1st).


Way too much injury risk and 5.25 plus giving up a 1st and top prospect for a 3C. It's just too large a cap hit and too much future to give up for someone you want as a 3C.
25 mars 2022 à 20 h 3
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I’ve found Johnson to be a very effective defender, and he’s big, would fit well next to heinola, at least until we can bring in someone better


An aging bottom pairing defenseman isn't a difference maker. I wouldn't want someone that would tempt the Jets coaches to overplay a la Beaulieu.
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25 mars 2022 à 20 h 50
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Pretty certain all of the Canadian teams are on EJ’s no trade along with BUF and AZ. That being said it would take a WHOLE lot more for COL to eat $3M in cap space in a cup window.
25 mars 2022 à 20 h 53
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Quoting: West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home
I don't think you have to offer much for Johnson as there were plenty of conversations on having him waive for Seattle.

I wouldn't make the toews trade either. Chicago probably wants to see him retire there even if it makes a ton of sense to trade him to help with the rebuild. The other concern is that it costs to land him and he realistically doesn't get you a cup.


There is a massive difference in asking a guy who just missed a year to waive for the XD where there was almost no chance Seattle was going to select him and actively shipping him, especially to a borderline playoff team
25 mars 2022 à 21 h 5
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Chibrikov is enough for Toews; adding a 1st for Toews is a massive overpay. If Schmidt gets traded it would be to bring up Heinola and Samberg, not to add Johnson
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25 mars 2022 à 21 h 17
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There is a massive difference in asking a guy who just missed a year to waive for the XD where there was almost no chance Seattle was going to select him and actively shipping him, especially to a borderline playoff team


Call me biased but I'd like to see a Canadian team lift the cup. I think Winnipeg just missed their shot and needs to retool. Toews isn't that in my mind. Plus you have to deal with his uncertain health issues.

Johnson I have mixed feelings about seeing as I'm a blues fan. Having the 1OA and probably only one for us in the next 50 years turning out to a let down hurts. He's no where near Yakupov territory but considering the blues could have had Toews and Coture hurts.
25 mars 2022 à 22 h 7
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Pretty certain all of the Canadian teams are on EJ’s no trade along with BUF and AZ. That being said it would take a WHOLE lot more for COL to eat $3M in cap space in a cup window.


Nice to see you read the trade description.
26 mars 2022 à 0 h 43
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Hawks definitely accept that, not sure why Winnipeg would ever offer it, tho.
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26 mars 2022 à 0 h 59
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Nice to see you read the trade description.


Johnson never waives to go to a fringe playoff team. But nice to assume I didn’t read the description. If your omniscient like that just bet on every game and play the stock market.
 
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