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Créé par: SidTheKid35
Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 17 mars 2022
Publié: 17 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Use the magnificent scheme of “the Tampa factor” aka LTiR cap circumvention to solve cap problems
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
DET
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Myers, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
5.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $78 970 531 $0 $82 500 $2 529 469 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 636 364 $2 636 364 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
870 000 $870 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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17 mars 2022 à 18 h 45
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Myers at 2 mil retained has significant value. A lot more than Chiarot say.
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17 mars 2022 à 18 h 47
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Pettersson for a 3rd is my offer.
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17 mars 2022 à 18 h 48
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Schmidt has been pretty good but I'd trade him for that.
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17 mars 2022 à 18 h 53
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Montreal will just keep Dvorak since he is under contract if we can't get back at least what we paid for him (or close to it)
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17 mars 2022 à 18 h 58
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Marino ranks 3rd on the team in ice-time. A right-handed defensemen who can move the puck, skate out of trouble, has a high hockey IQ, has play-off experience and is just 24 years old. They don’t grow on trees. Pens could get more for him in the future too.

And he’s signed long term. Till 2027. And making 4.4M per. For what D-man are getting paid nowadays. That’s a steal.

And I just can’t see a world where they trade Marino. With Letang being a UFA this offseason and the most unlikely of Geno-Letang-Rust to sign an extension. And the next best RHD on the team being Ruhwedel and a guy in the AHL named Maniscalco.

And sorry, but that’s the world we live in right now.

Even though Myers( at 4M per) is good. I just don’t see Vancouver retaining 2M for next season either. And Garland isn’t a Hextall/Burke type player.

If Marino gets moved, which I doubt, I think It’s for Boeser and Schenn. And Boeser agrees to a long term deal for something like 6M-6.5Mper @ 5-6 years(same as Guentzel and probably around what Rust will take to resign too). I don’t think Pens want anything to do with his 7.5M QO. He has to agree to a more lucrative long term deal at a lower AVV.

Thai doenst work anyways. Zucker is skating and coming off the IR soon.

Don’t do that Schmidt deal. He makes too much and has a bad term. Have the 3rd pairing D be Friedman/Ruhwedel. Ruhwedel has been more than capable.

Don’t do the Dvorak trade either. Or the Edmonton deal.

Just trade Kappy for a 2nd or for another young, RFA winger that could use a change of scenery like Zacha, D.Gurianov, L.Kunin, or Olofsson.

Even though it seems like a lateral move and Kappy might be the best of the bunch but something needs to happen with the Kappy situation. I hope he gets going and stays with the Pens but that doenst look likely right now.

Keep the 4th line ZAR/Blueger/McGinn. And the 3rd line; Zucker/Carter/Erod. 2nd line Heinen/Geno/???.
17 mars 2022 à 19 h 15
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Ask again in the offseason and we'll see if Detroit can get a fair price for Pettersson or maybe we'll let you keep him and claim Joseph on waivers instead.
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17 mars 2022 à 19 h 17
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Wings pass on this asking price
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17 mars 2022 à 19 h 18
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17 mars 2022 à 19 h 31
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Pettersson for a 3rd is my offer.


I agree Pettersson for a 3rd.
17 mars 2022 à 19 h 32
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Myers at 2 mil retained has significant value. A lot more than Chiarot say.


Marino is the best piece in that deal so 🤷‍♂️
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17 mars 2022 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: Pensfan89
Marino is the best piece in that deal so 🤷‍♂️


Laces out Marino!
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17 mars 2022 à 20 h 5
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Quoting: BigShoots
Myers at 2 mil retained has significant value. A lot more than Chiarot say.


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................................................................................................

No


They are similar defenceman but Chariot doesn't have the awful term that Myers has. He would be worth less.
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17 mars 2022 à 20 h 7
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Quoting: BigShoots
Myers at 2 mil retained has significant value. A lot more than Chiarot say.


Quoting: Hii
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................................................................................................

No


They are similar defenceman but Chariot doesn't have the awful term that Myers has. He would be worth less.


Imo, Myers at 2mil retained has a decent amount of value, but Marino has quite a bit more value than garland so I figured Myers makes the trade closer in value
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 24
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For a 3rd the Wings might bite, for a 2nd no thanks
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 25
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Laces out Marino!


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fIzRQew22qw
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 27
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fIzRQew22qw


LOL
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 44
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Quoting: SidTheKid35
Imo, Myers at 2mil retained has a decent amount of value, but Marino has quite a bit more value than garland so I figured Myers makes the trade closer in value


I'd say Garland and Marino have fairly similar values. Maybe Marino is worth slightly more, maybe. Not much though.
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: Hii
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................................................................................................................

No


They are similar defenceman but Chariot doesn't have the awful term that Myers has. He would be worth less.


Myers would be totally fine at 4 mil. Which is what this proposal is. And only for 2 more yrs.
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: Pensfan89
Marino is the best piece in that deal so 🤷‍♂️


Haha he's maybe worth more than Garland, maybe. Not with Myers retained though.
17 mars 2022 à 21 h 55
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Quoting: BigShoots
Myers at 2 mil retained has significant value. A lot more than Chiarot say.


I’m a Nucks fan and just watching Myers play on some days does not exactly scream value. I’d be happy to unload Myers for free. Allvin and Ruthford would have to do some wizardry to get a team to pay for Myers
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17 mars 2022 à 22 h 5
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Dvorak trade is a bit low on the value bump the 5th for a 3rd at least
17 mars 2022 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: BigShoots
Haha he's maybe worth more than Garland, maybe. Not Myers retained though.


Riiiiiiggggghhhhhtt and Dominik Simon is worth a 1st round pick. This is why no one takes Canucks fans seriously and think y’all are just as bad, if not worse than Habs fans.
17 mars 2022 à 22 h 20
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Riiiiiiggggghhhhhtt and Dominik Simon is worth a 1st round pick. This is why no one takes Canucks fans seriously and think y’all are just as bad, if not worse than Habs fans.


Thats a fun quip but what would make you think Marino has so much more value than Garland? Dom's model suggests Garland is worth 7.6 mil whereas Marino is 3.8.
17 mars 2022 à 22 h 21
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Quoting: Juiceman
I’m a Nucks fan and just watching Myers play on some days does not exactly scream value. I’d be happy to unload Myers for free. Allvin and Ruthford would have to do some wizardry to get a team to pay for Myers


So would I. I don't want to retain 2 mil on him though that doesn't help at all.
17 mars 2022 à 23 h 54
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Quoting: BigShoots
Thats a fun quip but what would make you think Marino has so much more value than Garland? Dom's model suggests Garland is worth 7.6 mil whereas Marino is 3.8.


This wasn’t about him having more value than Garland. You said Myers has more value than Marino which is just asinine.
 
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