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12 janv. 2022 à 10 h 58
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You can get Gallagher for a 2nd and a 3rd
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 3
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for Dube, a rostor player, and a pick. Maybe Hinostroza and a 3rd + 6th
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 4
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Detroit wouldn't move Hronek without getting some type of quality player back, perhaps in a 1 for 1 or where Detroit adds to upgrade.

Consider the following:
1. Detroit's area of least need is RHD due to having Seider + Hronek + Lindstrom; removing Hronek hurts this
2. Detroit's biggest area of need is arguably up the middle, specifically in the top 6
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 5
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it's hard to tell Gallaghers worth bc he produces like almost a cap dump, but the Habs also seem to be hesitant in giving him up
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 6
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Detroit wouldn't move Hronek without getting some type of quality player back, perhaps in a 1 for 1 or where Detroit adds to upgrade.

Consider the following:
1. Detroit's area of least need is RHD due to having Seider + Hronek + Lindstrom; removing Hronek hurts this
2. Detroit's biggest area of need is arguably up the middle, specifically in the top 6


mittlstadt?
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 8
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mittlstadt?


Interesting, but I'm not sure we'd want a guy who went through undisclosed surgery and hasn't played since.
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 11
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Interesting, but I'm not sure we'd want a guy who went through undisclosed surgery and hasn't played since.


Fair enough, I believe he reinjured himself and is out for the season
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 13
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it's hard to tell Gallaghers worth bc he produces like almost a cap dump, but the Habs also seem to be hesitant in giving him up


Maybe because he's typically a 30 goal scorer outside of this season. It takes more than 25 games to become a cap dump.
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 14
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Gallagher would be expensive if a team is looking to get him. In other words he's not moving from Montreal unless a team gives a lot for him, and don't think that will be the case
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 16
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Gallagher would be expensive if a team is looking to get him. In other words his not moving from Montreal unless a team gives a lot for him, and don't think that will be the case


listen I have been there as a sabres fan overvaluing players that you believe bring intangibles, but 6 mil for 10 points in 25 games isnt something you cant replace for cheaper
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 18
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Maybe because he's typically a 30 goal scorer outside of this season. It takes more than 25 games to become a cap dump.


He scored 30 twice and his next highest is 24, wouldnt say that is typical. Only reason I ask is the sabres have the cap to take him on and mentor the young guys
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 19
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listen I have been there as a sabres fan overvaluing players that you believe bring intangibles, but 6 mil for 10 points in 25 games isnt something you cant replace for cheaper


Ya, but I'm not montreal, I would definitely move Gallagher for maybe a second and a B or B+ prospect. But Gallagher is pretty much the habs captain, and he's not moving for cheap
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 20
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Maybe because he's typically a 30 goal scorer outside of this season. It takes more than 25 games to become a cap dump.


and last season, and the season before that. bad contract, az will take on his contract in a year or 2
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 24
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Ya, but I'm not montreal, I would definitely move Gallagher for maybe a second and a B or B+ prospect. But Gallagher is pretty much the habs captain, and he's not moving for cheap


then hes not moving at all because noone is giving you anything good for 6 more years at that hefty aav
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 30
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He scored 30 twice and his next highest is 24, wouldnt say that is typical. Only reason I ask is the sabres have the cap to take him on and mentor the young guys


he has scored at a 30 goal pace the last 4 years...this season is the outlier and not the 30 goal seasons, he is not worth a ton but he is not a cap dump especially if MTL decides to retain...with retention a lesser than the Kessel to PIT deal should be attainable
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 43
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mittlstadt?


I don't think that's enough for him, only players of interest would be Dahlin, Krebs and Cozens from Buffalo. I also don't think buffalo should move any of those players.
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 45
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You can get Gallagher for a 2nd and a 3rd


if there is no retention, maybe... but then a 2nd and 3rd isnt worth trading him.
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Anyway if gally wants out of montreal he surely doesn’t want to go to Buffalo. He would want a contending team. Therefore he probably prefer montreal over buffalo
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12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 47
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Gallagher would be expensive if a team is looking to get him. In other words he's not moving from Montreal unless a team gives a lot for him, and don't think that will be the case


Hes only expensive if Habs retain. And if you arent getting a lot, there is no sense in trading him. So Habs have to be willing to retain on him.
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 48
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He scored 30 twice and his next highest is 24, wouldnt say that is typical. Only reason I ask is the sabres have the cap to take him on and mentor the young guys


If Habs dont get a big return, he serves the same role with Habs. No sense in trading him at that point.
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 54
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You can get Gallagher for a 2nd and a 3rd


Absolutely not, it will be a 1st + 2nd + bad contract. Don't know why everyone thinks he is a cap dump based on 30 games on a struggling team after 4 straight years of 30+ goals (or on pace for 30+ goals). His contract isn't that bad, maybe a half mil to mil too high. Everyone says his play style isn't conducive to a long career but let's not forget Theo Fleury played to the ripe age of 38 while playing a similar style of game and was about the same height and weight. Size and play style have very little to do with a players value. Their value is based on career accomplishments, longevity plays some role but not as much as one might think since there is no way to predict how long a current player will play. A 22 year old could play for 20+ years or he could go out next game and be sent head first into the boards and end his career. Gallagher has a higher risk given his age and play style but that doesn't factor in as much as fans would like to think.
12 janv. 2022 à 11 h 57
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Absolutely not, it will be a 1st + 2nd + bad contract. Don't know why everyone thinks he is a cap dump based on 30 games on a struggling team after 4 straight years of 30+ goals (or on pace for 30+ goals). His contract isn't that bad, maybe a half mil to mil too high. Everyone says his play style isn't conducive to a long career but let's not forget Theo Fleury played to the ripe age of 38 while playing a similar style of game and was about the same height and weight. Size and play style have very little to do with a players value. Their value is based on career accomplishments, longevity plays some role but not as much as one might think since there is no way to predict how long a current player will play. A 22 year old could play for 20+ years or he could go out next game and be sent head first into the boards and end his career. Gallagher has a higher risk given his age and play style but that doesn't factor in as much as fans would like to think.


He has not looked great in the playoffs , and as I watch it looks like he can't keep up anymore. We will have to see how he preforms in the 2nd half
12 janv. 2022 à 12 h 1
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Anyway if gally wants out of montreal he surely doesn’t want to go to Buffalo. He would want a contending team. Therefore he probably prefer montreal over buffalo


I mean most likely sabres will be contenders before montreal...
12 janv. 2022 à 12 h 2
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it's hard to tell Gallaghers worth bc he produces like almost a cap dump, but the Habs also seem to be hesitant in giving him up


He doesn't produce like a cap dump (outside of this season), he has 4 straight years of 30+ goals or on pace for it. Every one of the Habs this year is struggling, not one Hab has more than 7 goals in 34 games, his stats so far are a product of being on a bad team not his decline as everyone would have you believe
12 janv. 2022 à 12 h 4
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He doesn't produce like a cap dump (outside of this season), he has 4 straight years of 30+ goals or on pace for it. Every one of the Habs this year is struggling, not one Hab has more than 7 goals in 34 games, his stats so far are a product of being on a bad team not his decline as everyone would have you believe


Should give gallagher the suzuki deal when his expires
 
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