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Instead of Chychrun lets focus on somebody affordable

Créé par: jchafe77
Date de création initiale: 21 déc. 2021
Publié: 21 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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TOR
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Villeneuve, William
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. 2022 2e round pick (TOR)
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TOR
  1. Brassard, Derick
  2. MacEwen, Zack
PHI
  1. Ritchie, Nick
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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Bunting, Michael
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Kase, Ondrej
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Brassard, Derick
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Spezza, Jason
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Simmonds, Wayne
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Muzzin, Jake
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Chiarot, Ben
0 $
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
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Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
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Liljegren, Timothy
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Holl, Justin
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21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 30
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I like the Brassard addition but you would need to give up a pick, don't see how they would have any interest in Ritchie.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 30
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friedman seems to think chiarot can return a first, which seems preposterous to me since he’s meh but alas, some habs fan will comment angrily about it i’m sure
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21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 33
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Quoting: bagelbob
friedman seems to think chiarot can return a first, which seems preposterous to me since he’s meh but alas, some habs fan will comment angrily about it i’m sure


You can’t say he is meh if you haven’t watched him played lol
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21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 40
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You can’t say he is meh if you haven’t watched him played lol


i’ve watched him play plenty lmao. he’s fine but the reason he’s desirable this deadline is because he’s the only guy available, not because he’s actually worthy of a first round pick. plays the “playoff style” but otherwise he’s been a black hole defensively this year and provides some scoring but he’s obviously not a traditional offensive d-man.
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21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 41
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Quoting: bagelbob
i’ve watched him play plenty lmao. he’s fine but the reason he’s desirable this deadline is because he’s the only guy available, not because he’s actually worthy of a first round pick. plays the “playoff style” but otherwise he’s been a black hole defensively this year and provides some scoring but he’s obviously not a traditional offensive d-man.


Off course not, and not a single Habs fans think he is worth a 1st RD pick, but he is a good acquisition for the playoffs
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 43
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Quoting: bagelbob
friedman seems to think chiarot can return a first, which seems preposterous to me since he’s meh but alas, some habs fan will comment angrily about it i’m sure


he's not worth a first but a desperate team will pay a first for him it's going to happen. I can see Edmonton doing it
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21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 44
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I'd rather focus on other lower cost options. Guys like Pysyk on Buffalo, who's playing agianst top lines and is making everyone he plays with better while doing it, or Mayfield from the Islanders. They don't have the name recognition most people on here jump towards but they are putting up better results than Chiarot has over the last few seasons.
21 déc. 2021 à 2 h 16
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Quoting: majormoose007
he's not worth a first but a desperate team will pay a first for him it's going to happen. I can see Edmonton doing it


Never underestimate GM's who think/fool themselves into believing their team can win a Cup at the trade deadline. Remember when Greatest GM of all time David Poile traded a 1st round pick to Buffalo for 4C Paul Gaustad? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat anyone? George McPhee remembers.
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21 déc. 2021 à 3 h 19
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Never underestimate GM's who think/fool themselves into believing their team can win a Cup at the trade deadline. Remember when Greatest GM of all time David Poile traded a 1st round pick to Buffalo for 4C Paul Gaustad? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat anyone? George McPhee remembers.


Funny how you mention the gaustad trade, which at the time looked incredibly stupid. But has aged spectacularly for Nashville. The 1st they sent to Buffalo wasn't used by the Sabres. They packaged it with a 2nd to CGY to move up in the draft and selected Zemgus Girgensons. CGY used the pick on Mark Jankowski who ironically is on the Sabres rn.

There was a 4th that Buffalo sent to Nashville in that deal. The Preds used that on none other than Juuse Saros.

If Buffalo or Calgary had better scouting/management they probably don't make that look as lopsided. But it's fully how q trade that looked awful at the time ended up looking terrible for the other team
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21 déc. 2021 à 4 h 39
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Habs have no need for more left D. we have a ton in NHL and AHL.
Our needs will R.D NHL and AHL.
21 déc. 2021 à 5 h 27
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Brassard and McEwen for Ritchie? Thats insane.

Theres a reason most Leaf fans want rid of Ritchie.

Suffice to say if TOR got either of those alone for ritchie, it would be highway robbery.
21 déc. 2021 à 6 h 2
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Chariot isnt affordable, hes just bad. Dermott is better than him
21 déc. 2021 à 8 h 27
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Chariot isnt affordable, hes just bad. Dermott is better than him


I agree, we need more Game 6 spin-o-rama Dermott....
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21 déc. 2021 à 8 h 28
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You can’t say he is meh if you haven’t watched him played lol


Lmao. Anyone who has watched him play is probably more likely to say he’s bad…
21 déc. 2021 à 8 h 36
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Quoting: bagelbob
friedman seems to think chiarot can return a first, which seems preposterous to me since he’s meh but alas, some habs fan will comment angrily about it i’m sure


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Off course not, and not a single Habs fans think he is worth a 1st RD pick, but he is a good acquisition for the playoffs


I agree Chiarot's value is a 2nd but like my friend GM's said teams overpay at the deadline and the Leafs would also have to overpay with something that interests the Habs. Like Amirov + 3rd. Again not that anyone thinks that Chiarot is worth that but like others have said there are a limited number of good, cheap defensive D men available and Chiarot is the best of them and a number of teams will be bidding on him.
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21 déc. 2021 à 9 h 31
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I agree, we need more Game 6 spin-o-rama Dermott....


Indeed, at least that showed some skill unlike "let pucks tip off me and into my own net " full playoffs chariot
21 déc. 2021 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Indeed, at least that showed some skill unlike "let pucks tip off me and into my own net " full playoffs chariot


Yeah, Dermott's mistake directly led to Game 6 game winning goal for Montreal. I'll take the odd inconsequential deflection over a highly preventable turnover.
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21 déc. 2021 à 10 h 21
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Yeah, Dermott's mistake directly led to Game 6 game winning goal for Montreal. I'll take the odd inconsequential deflection over a highly preventable turnover.


Yeah, one mistake over a continuous thing that is part of a guys game is a total great bet
21 déc. 2021 à 10 h 27
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Yeah, one mistake over a continuous thing that is part of a guys game is a total great bet


Montreal beat Toronto with Chiarot as their 1LD... Dermott cost a game/series as Toronto's 3RD... Yeah, i am picking Chiarot every time.
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21 déc. 2021 à 10 h 30
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Montreal beat Toronto with Chiarot as their 1LD... Dermott cost a game/series as Toronto's 3RD... Yeah, i am picking Chiarot every time.


Yep and now with chariot as their 1ld and price, danault and weber gone the habs are one of the worst teams in the league while the leafs are one if the best.
Great choice.
21 déc. 2021 à 10 h 53
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Yep and now with chariot as their 1ld and price, danault and weber gone the habs are one of the worst teams in the league while the leafs are one if the best.
Great choice.


yep, best goalie in the world, one of the best pure shutdown players in the league, and one of the best defensemen all missing... injuries to their 2LD, 1RD, and enough injuries to call up 6 Laval Rocket at forward, Chairot sure does suck...

Have a good one bud.
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21 déc. 2021 à 11 h 1
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yep, best goalie in the world, one of the best pure shutdown players in the league, and one of the best defensemen all missing... injuries to their 2LD, 1RD, and enough injuries to call up 6 Laval Rocket at forward, Chairot sure does suck...

Have a good one bud.


Dude your so close.
21 déc. 2021 à 11 h 15
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Dude your so close.


Leafs fans never helping themselves lol
Imagine having a great team losing in the 1st Round Every Single Year ! Chiarot >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dermott
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21 déc. 2021 à 11 h 16
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Lmao. Anyone who has watched him play is probably more likely to say he’s bad…


You stopped watching Habs games after Game 5 ? Chiarot is playing really good and even Savard looks decent now
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21 déc. 2021 à 11 h 19
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Leafs fans never helping themselves lol
Imagine having a great team losing in the 1st Round Every Single Year ! Chiarot >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Dermott


Dude, you're legit arguing that the habs 1LD is better than a guy who cant even make the leafs regular roster. And if all you got is that price stole a series for you in defence of your guy then you really gotta think about whats going on here.
 
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