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Brady Tkachuck

Créé par: OutCold13
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2021
Publié: 11 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
Just trying this out. Not sure on Tkachuck's value so at least I'll have a idea after this.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady47 000 000 $
Transactions
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MIN
  1. Tkachuk, Brady [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Not sure this makes sense for either team and I'm not sure the Sens would see this as a fair trade, just spit balling I guess. I think Tkachuck is probably looking for a big bridge deal so he can leave if Sens don't turn it around. I think if Send were willing to give Fiala a long term deal he would sign. I think Greenway would sign any fair offer.
OTT
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Greenway, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
No doubt in my mind that Billy G would love a player who plays the game like Tkachuck. Hoping he would sign a 4 year deal in MN so the Wild could afford him when his contract is up.
Rachats de contrats
  • Zach Parise: 2 371 794 $
  • Ryan Suter: 2 371 794 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
SJS
MIN
2023
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2024
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 147 253 $0 $0 $2 352 747 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Tkachuk, Brady
7 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 7
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 8
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
MIN
Beckman, Adam
894 167 $
AG
RFA - 3
MIN
Gaudreau, Frédérick
1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 2
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
3 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
MIN
Duhaime, Brandon
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MIN
Sturm, Nico
725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Pitlick, Rem
917 831 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
MIN
Bjugstad, Nick
900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MIN
Goligoski, Alex
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Talbot, Cam
3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Kähkönen, Kaapo
725 000 $
G
RFA - 1
MIN
Kulikov, Dmitry
2 250 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Benn, Jordie
900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MIN
Rask, Victor
4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Merrill, Jon
850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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11 oct. à 0 h 58
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of course he’d take a 4 year deal, that walks him straight to UFA. Not that ottawa would trade him for that but still
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11 oct. à 1 h 0
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Ottawa isnt trading their best player and likely their captain for Fiala and Greenway
11 oct. à 1 h 8
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Brady said 8 by 8 offer was disrespectful, and his dad along with NHL brother have been advising him to point they don't see the potential damage they are doing to his career holding out
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11 oct. à 1 h 10
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Quoting: Nate
Ottawa isnt trading their best player and likely their captain for Fiala and Greenway


No probably not, just testing the waters.
11 oct. à 1 h 12
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Fiala is a rental...
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11 oct. à 1 h 12
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Quoting: OutCold13
No probably not, just testing the waters.


Fair enough. Now if Ottawa signs him to a bridge deal and decides to trade him before his contract expires, you could probably circle back on this
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11 oct. à 1 h 13
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Quoting: Nate
Ottawa isnt trading their best player and likely their captain for Fiala and Greenway


At best fiala and t are equal, or fiala a little better. Analytics would look at points, and not once has Brady reached 50 points his career. Fiala has, and has 2 along with having 40 points last year and brady T had 36 points but was not great if a person were to care about +- in comparison of both players
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11 oct. à 1 h 14
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fiala is a rental...


Not true! He's still restricted after this season
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11 oct. à 1 h 14
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fiala is a rental...


Yes kinda. I think he is looking for a long term payday so retention is probably not difficult.
11 oct. à 1 h 17
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Quoting: CAPDumba
At best fiala and t are equal, or fiala a little better. Analytics would look at points, and not once has Brady reached 50 points his career. Fiala has, and has 2 along with having 40 points last year and brady T had 36 points but was not great if a person were to care about +- in comparison of both players


You can go that route with the argument, but you need to consider age and quality of team around, but then again Fiala did spend most of last season with Rask so the team quality argument might be null.
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11 oct. à 1 h 26
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Quoting: CAPDumba
At best fiala and t are equal, or fiala a little better. Analytics would look at points, and not once has Brady reached 50 points his career. Fiala has, and has 2 along with having 40 points last year and brady T had 36 points but was not great if a person were to care about +- in comparison of both players

Did you seriously just say analytics and +/- in the same post lmao, here’s some analytics:

Brady Tkachuk 5v5 stats:
SOG - 2nd
HITS - 1st
iXG - 3rd
Rush Attempts - 1st
Rebounds Created - T-13th
iCF - 10th
iFF - 2nd
iSCF - 3rd
iHDCF - 2nd
Future captain? - Yes
Lazy? - Never
Penalties drawn - 1st

and this is in the entire league, not just on the Sens lol
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11 oct. à 1 h 34
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Quoting: CAPDumba
Not true! He's still restricted after this season


Youre right he will go to arb with ottawa and then leave. Still an essy no from the Sens though
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11 oct. à 2 h 3
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Thought it'd be to play him at center
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11 oct. à 2 h 8
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Quoting: Radu47
Thought it'd be to play him at center


Crossed my mind, but if he was any good at it wouldn't the Sens already be playing him there?
11 oct. à 2 h 11
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Quoting: OutCold13
Crossed my mind, but if he was any good at it wouldn't the Sens already be playing him there?


Minnesota need centers

Ottawa don't

11 oct. à 2 h 35
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Quoting: Radu47
Minnesota need centers

Ottawa don't



Other than Josh Norris, what impresses you? To be honest I prefer Ek over Norris, maybe Norris becomes the better player but not yet.
11 oct. à 9 h 44
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Quoting: OutCold13
Crossed my mind, but if he was any good at it wouldn't the Sens already be playing him there?


Thought that was a unique trade you made. Gee, I'm not sure Minni does the deal. Two years of Failas for four years of Tkachuk, and Sens get Greenway...seems like a fair value trade. Only thing is paying Brady so much....IMO he's, not 7m player and then the reduced cap for the Wild next year due to the two buyouts.
I still say Minni declines.....keeping two good NHLers instead of one.
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11 oct. à 11 h 35
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Modifié 11 oct. à 13 h 11
Quoting: Alfie11
of course he’d take a 4 year deal, that walks him straight to UFA. Not that ottawa would trade him for that but still


I would easily do that if I am Ottawa. Fiala (25 y/o) is all kind of good and Greenway (24 y/o) is a pretty good piece too, plays a heavy game.

But yeah, no team should sign Tkachuk for 4 years, it should be 1-2 years or 6-8 years.

Quoting: Nate
Ottawa isnt trading their best player and likely their captain for Fiala and Greenway


I would

Quoting: CAPDumba
Brady said 8 by 8 offer was disrespectful


Quote/source?

Quoting: OutCold13
No probably not, just testing the waters.


No, your offer is pretty good IMO

Stutzle-Pinto-Batherson
Fiala-Norris-Brown
Formenton-Paul-Greenway
Sanford-Kelly-Watson
Ennis/White (injured)

Quoting: OutCold13
Other than Josh Norris, what impresses you?


Shane Pinto will be better than Josh Norris in the near future, even though Norris will be excellent

There's also a guy named Ridly Greig that you could start keeping track of. After that there's a young Ostapchuk who has a nice skllset but a darkhorse prospect named Philippe Daoust who I have been calling as a major riser for a over a year now. And there's always Stutzle who could end up as a Center. Not sure about that, for now I think Stu wants to be a winger, but that might change as he matures
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11 oct. à 12 h 40
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Youre right he will go to arb with ottawa and then leave. Still an essy no from the Sens though


Why?

Every indication from Fiala during the negotiation process this off-season was that he wanted a long-term contract and payday.

He has arbitration rights already, and chose not to use them. It was Guerin who took Fiala to arbitration. And even though a 1 year contract was worked out before the arbitration hearing, it's known that Fiala had elected on a 1 year arbitration contract anyway instead of a 2 year arbitration contract that would of walked him straight to UFA.

He isn't going to just force arbitration and run if he was on the Sens. All the guy wants is a long-term contract and to get paid. That's it. If he was offered a 8x$7M or something within that range of term and contract length, he'd take it in a heartbeat.

The notion that he wouldn't want to stick around just because it's Ottawa is idiotic. You're not Buffalo for crying out loud. You're a young up and coming team where the sky's the limit. Same as Minnesota, we're just further along the rebuild path then you are. I don't see any reason why Fiala wouldn't be willing to stick around, especially someplace where he could be 'the guy' for awhile.

Just saying...
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12 oct. à 9 h 49
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What would a trade involving Fiala and Norris or Pinto look like?
12 oct. à 14 h 34
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Quoting: MNBassman
What would a trade involving Fiala and Norris or Pinto look like?


Likely unrealistic. Norris is probably under the untouchable category by now and now that their rebuild is done, at least they say it is, gotta think Pinto is too. Ottawa doesn't have the center depth to be moving out centers, especially quality ones at that.
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