MillerSchmidt values and possible destinations

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 de 1

Créé par: Boldirev

Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2021

Publié: 14 juill. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

lots of rumors surrounding both of these players. Ideally Vancouver wants to keep them both, but what could/should they get if they decide to trade them? Neither of these players are "cap dumps" and both have desirable skillsets that appeal to multiple teams.
While Schmidt was acquired for a 3rd round pick, the timing and circumstances surrounding the Pietrangelo signing forced Vegas to move him for almost nothing. When you consider that Keith fetched a 3rd and a young D, Schmidt is worth at least a 2nd and may be a prospect as well.
Miller has blossomed in Vancouver and has substantial versatility and overall value. He is not being moved unless the return is worthwhile.

Transactions

VAN

Peeke, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)

CBJ

Miller, J.T.

Détails additionnels:

Young RD and two late 1sts in a weak draft. Not ideal but maybe doable.

VAN

Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [Droits de RFA]
Romanov, Alexander
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)

MTL

VAN

Bean, Jake [Droits de RFA]
Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

CAR

VAN

DeBrusk, Jake
Lauzon, Jérémy
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

Détails additionnels:

Or Clifton

BOS

VAN

Nutivaara, Markus
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (FLA)

FLA

Schmidt, Nate

VAN

Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
Garland, Conor [Droits de RFA]

ARI

Détails additionnels:

Schmidt.
Canucks taking in over 50M in salary for 30M going out. A putrid deal for Vancouver, but Benning loves OEL.

VAN

Bahl, Kevin
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)

NJD

Frais appliqués

Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
18	81 500 000 $	53 249 826 $	648 780 $	1 795 000 $	28 250 174 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock 5 875 000 $5 875 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 3	MacEwen, Zack 825 000 $825 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Virtanen, Jake 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Motte, Tyler 1 225 000 $1 225 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (200 000 $$200K) AG, AD RFA - 2
Highmore, Matthew 725 000 $725 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
DeBrusk, Jake 3 675 000 $3 675 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 5
Rathbone, Jack 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 1		Holtby, Braden 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 1

Romanov, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (637 500 $$638K) DG RFA - 1
Lauzon, Jérémy 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Nutivaara, Markus 2 700 000 $2 700 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6
Bahl, Kevin 795 000 $795 000 $ (107 500 $$108K) DG RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 29

Devil

Speak of the Devil

Rejoint: nov. 2017

Messages: 23,938

Mentions "j'aime": 26,436

Devils wouldn't do that at all

Take out Bahl and it's closer

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 30

GoHabsGo99

Rejoint: févr. 2021

Messages: 1,020

Mentions "j'aime": 477

yeah no thanks...that looks more like a start to an Eichel package

Subbanator7667 et Campabee a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 32

UpsideDownQue

Rejoint: août 2017

Messages: 8,440

Mentions "j'aime": 6,060

The thing is Schmidt has declined significantly since being moved to VAN. I'm not sure his value is positive anymore

Campabee a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 38

ggha777

Rejoint: juin 2018

Messages: 1,587

Mentions "j'aime": 744

MTL says no. Miller is good but not worth Giving up Romanov and KK along with our 1st

Zekelio a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 38

Friendly_Cannon

Rejoint: août 2019

Messages: 3,793

Mentions "j'aime": 3,262

For Miller I’d give you the Toronto first and a forward prospect like bemstrom. You paid a first and a small add for 3-4 years of jt. He’s played better but has less certainty to resign or play long term for us. A single first and a young nhl forward is the most I would pay.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 40

Lenny7

Rejoint: janv. 2017

Messages: 13,291

Mentions "j'aime": 11,051

This is kind of weird...You're saying that Schmidt has value because of the Keith trade, but you don't reference that in the OEL trade, and instead get their best forward attached, plus give them 3 negative assets.

I'm not saying that Arizona shouldn't retain in an OEL trade, but I can't imagine they'd be paying to move him.

UpsideDownQue et vikhodush a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 46

ON3M4N

Rejoint: mai 2016

Messages: 11,507

Mentions "j'aime": 4,566

Acquired for a 3rd, saw his production drop off a cliff and somehow he has more value now?

UpsideDownQue a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 11 h 59

vikhodush

Rejoint: mai 2017

Messages: 6,694

Mentions "j'aime": 3,362

While you make decent points around VGK circumstances and what Keith fetched, you ignored some others. Namely flat cap, Schmidt value at an all time low with a hefty contract, Holland is an idiot and Canucks don’t have a ton of leverage given the trade request and confirmation from the team.

That’s not to say Schmidt isn’t a good player and could still be useful. I personally think his situation was probably one of the most impacted by Covid and the trade from Vegas and he’ll bounce back pretty strong. But it’s a huge risk from other teams and they’ll be buying low so you likely won’t get any high picks or high end prospects coming back.

14 juill. 2021 à 13 h 10

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

Messages: 9,851

Mentions "j'aime": 6,441

Quoting: The_Cannon

Not to mention Peeke is the only RHD on the roster, depending on the Jones return. Also Miller doesn’t exactly fit into the rebuild. Idk why people aren’t getting that Columbus shouldn’t be trading picks out for older players.

Friendly_Cannon, CBJFan5 et Viqsi a aimé ceci.

14 juill. 2021 à 13 h 46

#10

Friendly_Cannon

Rejoint: août 2019

Messages: 3,793

Mentions "j'aime": 3,262

Quoting: Ajp_18

Yeah the only reason I’d do what I offered is we have on outside shot at resigning him and he can play center. Hes not too old but would be a vet by the time we are competing again and wouldn’t be bad for the leadership group.

14 juill. 2021 à 14 h 12

#11

Boldirev

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 605

Mentions "j'aime": 200

Quoting: Lenny7

Arizona doesn't care about the cap, they are bleeding cash and they very much care about the money. OEL is owed 50M over 6 years with 10.5 M paid out EACH of the next three years, Keith is owed a total of 3.6 M over the next two years.....do you see the actual difference here? Keith is in a decline and has been for a couple of years ranking as one of the worst D in the league. Schmidt has not shown declining play....last year was a train wreck for Vancouver as a whole but he was still their best D man....easily. Arizona is bleeding cash, they want to move OEL very badly. This is not a hockey trade, its not a cap dump, its a cash dump.

14 juill. 2021 à 14 h 20

#12

Boldirev

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 605

Mentions "j'aime": 200

Quoting: vikhodush

Maybe, but I doubt it. I doubt they trade him if they don't get value, they just have no reason to. Other teams know exactly what Schmidt is and what a disaster the Canucks were on and off the ice last year. If they can squeeze them, obviously they will try, but his skill set is in too much demand for that to work IMO. Someone will make a respectable offer after the ED. I could be wrong.....but I don't see it happening in this case.

14 juill. 2021 à 17 h 35

#13

PeterForsberg21

Rejoint: janv. 2021

Messages: 2,771

Mentions "j'aime": 1,386

VAN is not moving Miller, Aquilani won't allow it and Benning is under a lot of pressure to make the playoffs.

15 juill. 2021 à 17 h 4

#14

Boldirev

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: sept. 2020

Messages: 605

Mentions "j'aime": 200

Quoting: PeterForsberg21

VAN is not moving Miller, Aquilani won't allow it and Benning is under a lot of pressure to make the playoffs.

Maybe...maybe not. If Miller wants out ( and who really knows ) they will move him. it's interesting that Montreal has inquired about him and that it was reported. This entire site is hypotheticals BTW.

Répondre

Page 1 de 1

PARAMÈTRES D’AFFICHAGE

COTES DES PARIS

LANGUE

ARCHIVES

CBA

CALCS

OUTILS - FANTASY HOCKEY

OUTILS

JOUEURS

CONFÉRENCE DE L'OUEST

CONFÉRENCE DE L'EST

OUTILS INTERACTIFS

Forums/Armchair-GM