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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 26 juin 2021
Publié: 26 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
58 500 000 $
44 500 000 $
1900 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
11 250 000 $
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BUF
  1. Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Rossi, Marco
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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3.
MIN
  1. Allison, Wade
  2. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
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Plus a pick (2nd ???)
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2181 500 000 $67 993 333 $0 $1 990 000 $13 506 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 5
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
800 000 $800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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RFA - 1
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3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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825 833 $825 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, C
RFA - 1

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26 juin 2021 à 12 h 47
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That is indeed fair. My preference would be boldy over fiala, but thats because I don't want to waste guys primes while we suck
26 juin 2021 à 12 h 49
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That Pittsburgh first is incredibly late, I think I’d prefer an NHL ready prospect instead.
26 juin 2021 à 12 h 53
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That is indeed fair. My preference would be boldy over fiala, but thats because I don't want to waste guys primes while we suck


Honestly I think that makes a ton of sense for Buffalo. I just think Buffalo can be good in 3 years if they play their cards right and Fiala can still be entering his prime then.
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26 juin 2021 à 12 h 53
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Honestly I think that makes a ton of sense for Buffalo. I just think Buffalo can be good in 3 years if they play their cards right and Fiala can still be entering his prime then.


In 3 years fiala will be 28 and be exiting his prime with a big contract
26 juin 2021 à 12 h 54
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
That is indeed fair. My preference would be boldy over fiala, but thats because I don't want to waste guys primes while we suck


Not sure we could make it work if it weren't Fiala. We need the cap space to fit Eichel.

I think it's a bit much for Eichel but I wouldn't be all that surprised if something like this happened.
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Not sure we could make it work if it weren't Fiala. We need the cap space to fit Eichel.

I think it's a bit much for Eichel but I wouldn't be all that surprised if something like this happened.


How about a 3 way?
Carolina gets Fiala
Minny gets Eichel
Buffalo gets assets from both teams
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26 juin 2021 à 12 h 57
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In 3 years fiala will be 28 and be exiting his prime with a big contract


I like when players get signed from 24-32 for 8 years tbh. You get all of their primes and make sure you aren’t stuck with a 28 year old Great player who you’re conflicted if you wanna trade for cheap, let him walk or having to sign him to a bad contract (EK, OEL, etc)
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26 juin 2021 à 12 h 57
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I think it works but if you need more cap space maybe you switch out Dumba for Fiala
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26 juin 2021 à 12 h 58
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I think it works but if you need more cap space maybe you switch out Dumba for Fiala


As you can see above , they’d still have to trade both Dumba and Fiala to make the cap work
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26 juin 2021 à 13 h 4
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As you can see above , they’d still have to trade both Dumba and Fiala to make the cap work


My tunnel vision for the Sabres...my thinking was the Sabres need a RHD
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26 juin 2021 à 13 h 13
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How about a 3 way?
Carolina gets Fiala
Minny gets Eichel
Buffalo gets assets from both teams


Depends on what the other assets are I guess, but I think Fiala would thrive in Carolina
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26 juin 2021 à 13 h 20
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I like this trade, I think it works, my only issue with this team is the right side defence looks pretty weak for a team wanting to contend.
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26 juin 2021 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I like this trade, I think it works, my only issue with this team is the right side defence looks pretty weak for a team wanting to contend.


Kinda agree. Maybe they can get back a good cheap RD back for Dumba.
26 juin 2021 à 13 h 27
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Kinda agree. Maybe they can get back a good cheap RD back for Dumba.


Talbot and / or Soucy might end up having to be moved after the draft of they don't get selected by Seattle.
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26 juin 2021 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
In 3 years fiala will be 28 and be exiting his prime with a big contract


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I like when players get signed from 24-32 for 8 years tbh. You get all of their primes and make sure you aren’t stuck with a 28 year old Great player who you’re conflicted if you wanna trade for cheap, let him walk or having to sign him to a bad contract (EK, OEL, etc)


Why does this myth persist that a players prime is from 23 to 28? Every credible shred of evidence points to it being from 25-32. A player is just entering their apex at 23, but are still growing their game. Up unto the age of 25, once they are who they are going to be.

A key evident stat of this are the many late bloomers who don't really pop until they're 25-26. Power Forwards being a prime example of this.

There are many factors that can be attributed to regression and to why a player isn't performing up to expectations but they all tend to be mental or whatever situation they're in, and not necessarily physical. A player doesn't start physically regressing until age 30 and start the downward apex of their careers.

Maybe I just view it differently, but it doesn't make sense to me otherwise.
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26 juin 2021 à 14 h 1
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Would hate to lose Allison because he’s the closest thing to a sniper the Flyers have but this would be fair value wise.
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Quoting: RazWild
Why does this myth persist that a players prime is from 23 to 28? Every credible shred of evidence points to it being from 25-32. A player is just entering their apex at 23, but are still growing their game. Up unto the age of 25, once they are who they are going to be.

A key evident stat of this are the many late bloomers who don't really pop until they're 25-26. Power Forwards being a prime example of this.

There are many factors that can be attributed to regression and to why a player isn't performing up to expectations but they all tend to be mental or whatever situation they're in, and not necessarily physical. A player doesn't start physically regressing until age 30 and start the downward apex of their careers.

Maybe I just view it differently, but it doesn't make sense to me otherwise.


Forwards hit prime 23-29
D-men hit prime two years later 25-31
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26 juin 2021 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: RazWild
Why does this myth persist that a players prime is from 23 to 28? Every credible shred of evidence points to it being from 25-32. A player is just entering their apex at 23, but are still growing their game. Up unto the age of 25, once they are who they are going to be.

A key evident stat of this are the many late bloomers who don't really pop until they're 25-26. Power Forwards being a prime example of this.

There are many factors that can be attributed to regression and to why a player isn't performing up to expectations but they all tend to be mental or whatever situation they're in, and not necessarily physical. A player doesn't start physically regressing until age 30 and start the downward apex of their careers.

Maybe I just view it differently, but it doesn't make sense to me otherwise.


https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/03/23/a-new-look-at-aging-curves-for-nhl-skaters-part-1/
27 juin 2021 à 11 h 51
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Kinda agree. Maybe they can get back a good cheap RD back for Dumba.


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