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LAINE TRADE

Créé par: BJ22
Date de création initiale: sep 23, 2020
Publié: 23 sep 2020 à 9 h 04
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Explications
Laine Trade - Jets need quality, not quantity. This proposal offers them a future 2C, a replacement W on the second line and a 1st Round Pick this year. These are the only three pieces that’ll get a trade like this done.
NYI Trade - Jets get a future top 4 RHD. Islanders can use the pick to select a scoring W to pair with Barzal, hopefully Holtz or Quinn.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Appleton, Mason11 000 000 $
Harkins, Jansen11 000 000 $
Niku, Sami11 000 000 $
Roslovic, Jack22 500 000 $
Nogier, Nelson1750 000 $
Spacek, Michael1750 000 $
Suess, C.J.1750 000 $
Domi, Max55 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Beaulieu, Nathan11 500 000 $
Dillon, Brenden44 000 000 $
Brossoit, Laurent41 500 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Suzuki, Nick
  2. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Laine, Patrik
WPG
  1. Dobson, Noah
NYI
  1. 2020 1e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. 2020 6e round pick (STL)
OTT
  1. Dahlström, Carl
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Patrik Laine: 1 755 000 $ (26%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
WPG
WPG
WPG
STL
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $74 043 689 $0 $962 500 $7 456 311 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
WPG
Connor, Kyle
7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
6 125 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
8 250 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Domi, Max
5 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
WPG
Copp, Andrew
2 280 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
WPG
Lowry, Adam
2 916 666 $
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
2 500 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
1 000 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
4 125 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
1 000 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
NYI
Dobson, Noah
894 167 $
DD
RFA - 2
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
6 166 666 $
G
UFA - 4
Dillon, Brenden
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
WPG
Pionk, Neal
3 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
WPG
Niku, Sami
1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
WPG
Little, Bryan
5 291 667 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 4

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23 sep 2020 à 9 h 09
#1
Shane Kelly
Rejoint: jui 2019
Messages: 818
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Is Laine REALLY worth that much? He only scores, he can't make plays. I would say the Canadiens would keep Suzuki over Kotkaniemi
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 10
#2
MisstheWhalers
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 13,298
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Welcome to CapFriendly!

Be prepared for Habs fans roasting this, Islanders fans will reject this idea as well.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 12
#3
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 920
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Montreal finally has depth at centre something they haven’t had their not trading 2 centres for a winger no way Montreal makes that trade
Islanders decline as well they have cap problems not trading a nhl ready d that makes 950k
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 14
#4
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 190
Mentions "j'aime": 63
I can understand wanting to get that much for Laine, but if thats the asking price he wont be leaving the Jets, no one will pay that much for him knowing hes going to be asking for 9-10 mil after this season.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 20
#5
BergDaMan
Rejoint: jui 2020
Messages: 798
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
I can understand wanting to get that much for Laine, but if thats the asking price he wont be leaving the Jets, no one will pay that much for him knowing hes going to be asking for 9-10 mil after this season.


It’s not even what Laine will command contract wise. I know he’s a stud but I can’t imagine Bergevin trading Suzuki or Kk for anyone at this point. They’re on ELC contracts and heading for stardom
GMs et habs_need_Scoring a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 21
#6
Rejoint: jui 2019
Messages: 11,061
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Suzuki is already a #1C
Suzuki vs Laine straight up would be fair but MTL rather have Suzuki over Laine
bunzy1034 et Subbanator7667 a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 25
#7
Bench Komorav 4ever
Rejoint: mar 2019
Messages: 8,155
Mentions "j'aime": 5,803
Isles easily decline. Noah Dobson is our most untouchable player behind Barzal
Isles777 a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 38
#8
Rejoint: jui 2019
Messages: 454
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Suzuki is a budding 1C already, with potential to become elite. I don't think MTL does this 1 for 1, based off of how Valuable Suzuki is
GMs a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 47
#9
NYI
Rejoint: aoû 2019
Messages: 285
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This is satirical right?
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 51
#10
Rejoint: sep 2020
Messages: 776
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yeah, Bergevin Hard pass.

crush your center depth and trade a pick for a one-dimensional winger.
GMs a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 53
#11
Rejoint: jui 2020
Messages: 2,932
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Winnipeg turns down the first trade and the Islanders and Ottawa turn down the other 2.
23 sep 2020 à 9 h 58
#12
Subbanator
Rejoint: jui 2017
Messages: 4,271
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Quoting: Windjammer
Winnipeg turns down the first trade and the Islanders and Ottawa turn down the other 2.


Once again, what would you want from MTL for Laine? This offer included Suzuki and you still say no
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 03
#13
Mark
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 551
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Quoting: Shane_Kelly
Is Laine REALLY worth that much? He only scores, he can't make plays. I would say the Canadiens would keep Suzuki over Kotkaniemi


He is one dimentional, but that one dimention happens to be a really important one in today's NHL: scoring goals. I don't think the Canadiens will get him, but playing along: Bergevin stated that Kotkaniemi, Romanov, Suzuki, Price and Weber are untouchables. We can debate the merits of that another time. Since they're not going, I would assume the Canadiens could offer Caufield, Kulak, Domi, Ylonen, and their first round pick (16th overall). Something in that ballpark. CERTAIN that someone craps on this because, Capfriendly.

IF the Jets are listening on Laine, they might at least consider this, as it gives them a second line center, an established NHL defensman, Caufield and Ylonen, along with a 1st. Hab haters will bash Domi's performance in the playoffs, and Hab lovers will talk about his merits in 18-19. None of this matters: He won't go anywhere.
GMs a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 09
#14
Bandwagon fairweathe
Rejoint: jun 2018
Messages: 3,973
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Welcome to CapFriendly!

Be prepared for Habs fans roasting this, Islanders fans will reject this idea as well.


I’d like to see stasny with a krebs sweetener, over selling any of the kids, krebs could be next Suzuki, even buy Mcnabb if there serious about pietrangelo
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 23
#15
Islanders Fan
Rejoint: mai 2016
Messages: 4,771
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Isles aren't moving Dobson. Sorry
Isles777 a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 24
#16
bgainesdm
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 575
Mentions "j'aime": 97
Wtf!? Islanders collectively slap you in the face with this trade.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 44
#17
MisstheWhalers
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 13,298
Mentions "j'aime": 5,770
Quoting: Shane_Kelly
Is Laine REALLY worth that much? He only scores, he can't make plays. I would say the Canadiens would keep Suzuki over Kotkaniemi


Yes cause his assist totals going up this season says he's one dimensional, only scores and does nothing else, what a tired narrative.
Windjammer a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 45
#18
MisstheWhalers
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 13,298
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Quoting: markmws
He is one dimentional, but that one dimention happens to be a really important one in today's NHL: scoring goals. I don't think the Canadiens will get him, but playing along: Bergevin stated that Kotkaniemi, Romanov, Suzuki, Price and Weber are untouchables. We can debate the merits of that another time. Since they're not going, I would assume the Canadiens could offer Caufield, Kulak, Domi, Ylonen, and their first round pick (16th overall). Something in that ballpark. CERTAIN that someone craps on this because, Capfriendly.

IF the Jets are listening on Laine, they might at least consider this, as it gives them a second line center, an established NHL defensman, Caufield and Ylonen, along with a 1st. Hab haters will bash Domi's performance in the playoffs, and Hab lovers will talk about his merits in 18-19. None of this matters: He won't go anywhere.


Laine had more assists then goals this season but yeah he's one dimensional.
Windjammer et markmws a aimé ceci.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 46
#19
MisstheWhalers
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Modifié 23 sep 2020 à 13 h 57
Quoting: Birtle34
I’d like to see stasny with a krebs sweetener, over selling any of the kids, krebs could be next Suzuki, even buy Mcnabb if there serious about pietrangelo


Yeah I wouldn't touch Stasny unless we're getting compensated to take him or give something of almost zero value like an AHL player for him.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 54
#20
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Once again, what would you want from MTL for Laine? This offer included Suzuki and you still say no


It doesn't fill team needs for the Jets. If Montreal sends Suzuki, then the Jets have no need for Domi. It would need to be Romanov or Brook or Harris instead. If the Jets trade Laine it is to fill a couple team needs, not just move the hole from center to wing.
23 sep 2020 à 10 h 55
#21
Bandwagon fairweathe
Rejoint: jun 2018
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Yeah I wouldn't touch Stasny if we're getting compensated to take him or give something of almost zero value like an AHL player for him.

My round about way of getting krebs out of Vegas, flat cap so would be nice to gamble on someone couple years older than 10 over all
23 sep 2020 à 11 h 05
#22
Bandwagon fairweathe
Rejoint: jun 2018
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Yeah I wouldn't touch Stasny if we're getting compensated to take him or give something of almost zero value like an AHL player for him.

What do you think 10th pick, roslovic and poolman worth, for a team trying to cut 3/4 million and take a run at hall or pietrangelo or buy there own rfas, I was thinking that 5/6 million player?
23 sep 2020 à 13 h 55
#23
Mark
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Laine had more assists then goals this season but yeah he's one dimensional.


He did. However, the general consensus is that he's more of a goal-scorer. While he is actively working towards becoming a more complete player, most pundits would agree that his main dimention is scoring goals. I apologize for not looking at the statistics before posting, as it seems that my pos may have offended you.
23 sep 2020 à 14 h 01
#24
MisstheWhalers
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 13,298
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Quoting: markmws
He did. However, the general consensus is that he's more of a goal-scorer. While he is actively working towards becoming a more complete player, most pundits would agree that his main dimention is scoring goals. I apologize for not looking at the statistics before posting, as it seems that my pos may have offended you.


Nothing offends me.
23 sep 2020 à 15 h 51
#25
Mark
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 551
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Nothing offends me.


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