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ParaykoNylander

Créé par: RebCub
Équipe: 2020-21 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 28 août 2020
Publié: 28 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Lot of draft capital to restock the system or move around.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1950 000 $
1800 000 $
1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
89 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
2.
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
NJD
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
3.
STL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
4.
STL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de ARI
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Logo de BUF
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Logo de CAR
2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $69 447 047 $306 349 $1 837 500 $12 052 953 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
758 333 $758 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
787 500 $787 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 200 000 $$1M)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3

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28 août 2020 à 17 h 8
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over pay for Parayko. As we've seen hes only worth Johnsson, Liljegren and the 1st.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 9
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It's tough giving up Nylander and the 1st but I like Parayko so much and I think Blais has some decent skill and would be great on the 3rd maybe 4th line.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 10
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I don’t understand the Dunn trade. If he’s at least a 2nd pairing Dman right now he shouldn’t be dealt. Unless you think he ends up like Montour, Risto, Vatanen etc
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28 août 2020 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: Byrr
over pay for Parayko. As we've seen hes only worth Johnsson, Liljegren and the 1st.


As we've seen lol. Just because a ton of Leafs fans post a deal doesn't make it definite value.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 11
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I dont get the Dunn trades, hes the 2nd best defenseman on this team

Also theres no way the Leafs say yes to that.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 12
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As we've seen lol. Just because a ton of Leafs fans post a deal doesn't make it definite value.


That trade is an overpay for the Leafs.
hes not worth that much
28 août 2020 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: deys3232
That trade is an overpay for the Leafs.
hes not worth that much


very cool, thanks
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28 août 2020 à 17 h 13
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Quoting: csick
I don’t understand the Dunn trade. If he’s at least a 2nd pairing Dman right now he shouldn’t be dealt. Unless you think he ends up like Montour, Risto, Vatanen etc


I just don't see Blues rostering Dunn, Faulk, and Perunovich. Trading Dunn allows you to spend that money elsewhere.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: Byrr
over pay for Parayko. As we've seen hes only worth Johnsson, Liljegren and the 1st.


It’s not a huge overpay. One for one is quite fair.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: A_K
As we've seen lol. Just because a ton of Leafs fans post a deal doesn't make it definite value.


True, but Nylander and a 1st for Parayko is equally as ridiculous as you think the other proposal is. Nylander looks like a 90 point season isn't out of the realm of possibility, he is only 24 and is trending up. If that is the asking price for Parayko he isn't moving and if you need space to keep Pietrangelo, I am not sure how that happens.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: csick
I don’t understand the Dunn trade. If he’s at least a 2nd pairing Dman right now he shouldn’t be dealt. Unless you think he ends up like Montour, Risto, Vatanen etc


And he would be the unquestioned first pairing at LD for the Devils.
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28 août 2020 à 17 h 19
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Not worth over paying nylander plus a first nylander will be stlois best player in like 2 years the deal is fair 1 for 1
28 août 2020 à 17 h 26
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23-year-old Dunn was among the most sheltered 3rd-pairing Ds in the NHL. QoC in the 8th percentile. OZ starts in the 94th percentile. If your advanced stats tell you that he was the 2nd best D on the Blues then you need to stop looking at advanced stats.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
True, but Nylander and a 1st for Parayko is equally as ridiculous as you think the other proposal is. Nylander looks like a 90 point season isn't out of the realm of possibility, he is only 24 and is trending up. If that is the asking price for Parayko he isn't moving and if you need space to keep Pietrangelo, I am not sure how that happens.


Obviously I'd want more but I wouldn't be upset if the deal was 1 for 1. If Parayko gets moved, it may as well be for an actual impact player like Willy coming back. Thomas and Nylander would be a great duo to have. It still requires a bunch of cap moves for STL though. I'd move Perron and Bozak, sign Petro, and trade Parayko for Nylander if it really came down to it, but I don't know if Armstrong would ever consider trading Parayko - I think he's pretty confident in him considering he's been playing chicken with Pietrangelo this whole time.
28 août 2020 à 17 h 39
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Obviously I'd want more but I wouldn't be upset if the deal was 1 for 1. If Parayko gets moved, it may as well be for an actual impact player like Willy coming back. Thomas and Nylander would be a great duo to have. It still requires a bunch of cap moves for STL though. I'd move Perron and Bozak, sign Petro, and trade Parayko for Nylander if it really came down to it, but I don't know if Armstrong would ever consider trading Parayko - I think he's pretty confident in him considering he's been playing chicken with Pietrangelo this whole time.


Do u think Schwartz will get re-signed? Probably yes if Pietrangelo doesn’t get re-signed but what if he does?
28 août 2020 à 17 h 40
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Quoting: RebCub
I just don't see Blues rostering Dunn, Faulk, and Perunovich. Trading Dunn allows you to spend that money elsewhere.


Dunn-Pietrangelo
Scandella-Faulk
Mikkola/Perunovich-Bortuzzo

Assuming Parayko gets moved for Nylander
28 août 2020 à 17 h 41
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I’d actually like Allen for a 4th if we can’t sign a FA goalie
28 août 2020 à 17 h 43
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Do u think Schwartz will get re-signed? Probably yes if Pietrangelo doesn’t get re-signed but what if he does?


I hope they can find the money for Schwartz but it depends on what the rest of the roster looks like and if anyone out of Kyrou, Sanford, and Blais can actually step up and solidify a spot in the top six. As it currently sits, I don't think they can sign Pietrangelo and Dunn and have the money for Schwartz and I don't think there is a replacement in the system for what he brings. It's a tight spot to be in, at least we have Justin Faulk for 7 more years flushed cheeks
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28 août 2020 à 17 h 52
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I hope they can find the money for Schwartz but it depends on what the rest of the roster looks like and if anyone out of Kyrou, Sanford, and Blais can actually step up and solidify a spot in the top six. As it currently sits, I don't think they can sign Pietrangelo and Dunn and have the money for Schwartz and I don't think there is a replacement in the system for what he brings. It's a tight spot to be in, at least we have Justin Faulk for 7 more years flushed cheeks


At least you guys have Kostin, Kyrou and Thomas as young players haha
28 août 2020 à 17 h 53
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Obviously I'd want more but I wouldn't be upset if the deal was 1 for 1. If Parayko gets moved, it may as well be for an actual impact player like Willy coming back. Thomas and Nylander would be a great duo to have. It still requires a bunch of cap moves for STL though. I'd move Perron and Bozak, sign Petro, and trade Parayko for Nylander if it really came down to it, but I don't know if Armstrong would ever consider trading Parayko - I think he's pretty confident in him considering he's been playing chicken with Pietrangelo this whole time.



I'd prefer if the Leafs make this move, it's 1 v 1.
28 août 2020 à 18 h 3
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At least you guys have Kostin, Kyrou and Thomas as young players haha


Robby Thomas is why i wake up in the morning tears of joy
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28 août 2020 à 18 h 22
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I'd gladly give 4 years of Nylander for 2 years of Parayko but giving a 1st in a deep draft too is too much for me.

The most I'd give is Nylander and a 2nd round pick for Parayko.
29 août 2020 à 0 h 38
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Quoting: Byrr
over pay for Parayko. As we've seen hes only worth Johnsson, Liljegren and the 1st.


This is kind of like the day-trader who buys a stock for 10 bucks, watches it go to 20 bucks but sits on it and then tells someone he doubled his money. You only double your money if you make the trade. Parayko is only worth that low-ball offer if Doug Armstrong were dumb enough to make that trade.
29 août 2020 à 11 h 16
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
I'd gladly give 4 years of Nylander for 2 years of Parayko but giving a 1st in a deep draft too is too much for me.

The most I'd give is Nylander and a 2nd round pick for Parayko.



Yeah, thing is you're losing flexibility in 2022 and beyond. I'd give up other assets to make this deal work, but not a cheap ELC talent.
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29 août 2020 à 11 h 28
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Yeah, thing is you're losing flexibility in 2022 and beyond. I'd give up other assets to make this deal work, but not a cheap ELC talent.


Right on.
 
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