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Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:28 pm

Sujet: When Thomas Gets back

I don't mind this look, but I'd put RT in the middle and Bozak on the wing, at least after the draws. They play well together either way. And Hoff needs that play driving center or he's just invisible.

If not this I'd like to see Kyrou back with 17 and 10.

DP-ROR-Tarasenko
Schwartz-Schenn-Kyrou
Hoff-Thomas-Bozak
Sanford-Barby-Blais

Hard to demote Sammy after a couple good games, but this would be more about getting our best guys the most minutes.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:13 am

Sujet: If St Louis picked Jonathan Toews

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Got a huge kick out of going back through this. Pretty cool to see what ties players together.</div></div>

once you break the theoretical glass, it's shattered forever... what if STL took Toews in 2006. Then maybe they take a d-man in 2007, say Ryan McDonagh. Safe to say they would've taken Petro in 2008 considering they did it when they already had EJ in the system. 3 guys in a row - a 1C and 1LD and 1RD - that eventually captained their NHL teams, sounds like a nice leadership group.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:05 am

Sujet: If St Louis picked Jonathan Toews

I think about this one a lot, but I don't know if "being smart" is the same thing as "using hindsight". It's always a bit of a risk to take a d-man 1st overall, but EJ had the look of a clear-cut, no. 1 d-man even in his DY (2006 btw, you've got 2008 in desc.). He was very much considered the BPA for 1oa and most scouts had Jordan Staal above Toews for 2 and 3. Clearly their trajectories crossed post-draft, but I don't think it was a mistake to take EJ, it just didn't work out like it should have.

A big factor in the 'what-if' scenario would also be 'what if Johnson didn't mangle his knee in a golf cart accident?'. He wasn't the same player after that injury - wasn't skating with the confidence he once had, wasn't making good decisions because he didn't trust his legs. And it was at the most crucial time in a defensemen's development - missed his entire sophomore season in the NHL.

The EJ pick is the most interesting 'what-if' for STL imo, followed by 2007 'what if they took Couture instead of trading back for Eller?' The Blues had so many issues finding centers in the last decade (until ROR fell into their lap), it's crazy to think about what the team could've done with a 1-2 punch of Toews and Couture.

Forum: Armchair-GM 8 avr à 20 h 44

Sujet: A Bigger Sell Concept

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>Make the Boston trade Berglund and a 2nd. Also, you're going to trade Schwartz and Barbashev with retention to Toronto and not get Liljegren?</div></div>

I'd take Liljegren, but I think he's close enough to the NHL that the Leafs prob keep him. Niemela has plenty of upside, just 2-3 yrs out. Really I'd rather see Schwartz sign an extension. Just tossing out options.

Forum: Armchair-GM 8 avr à 15 h 10

Sujet: A Bigger Sell Concept

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JJstings315</b></div><div>Well first off really great team explanation. Thought that was superb!

as an Edmonton Fan, Ill answer towards our part in this.

Since Edmonton is really happy with the depth and where we are at this season, unless your giving us a hell of a deal like Sanford for a 5th, I just don't see us making any trades with St. Louis or infact any teams this trade deadline. We are just gonna be doing some resignings.</div></div>

Thanks for the reply. I think there would be enough teams interested in Sanford to keep his return higher than a 5th, but I feel you about edmonton trying to work with what they have. If the Blues can't get a decent pick for ZS, he becomes another option for seattle, and stl has one less fwd spot to fill.

Forum: Armchair-GM 8 avr à 15 h 05

Sujet: hoffman

Had to make sure chiasson is a UFA this offseason, but yeah this value is probably reasonable for Hoff. He's a hired gun on a team with no armor. Blues should take what they can get and move along.

Forum: Armchair-GM 5 avr à 11 h 28

Sujet: 2 W in the last 30 days

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>West_Virginia_Take_Me_Home</b></div><div>Why do People want to move burtozzo?</div></div>

Idc if they move him or not, but they should keep Walman in the lineup because our team speed has been a glaring concern. Bobby B makes a good partner for a guy like Dunn/Walman/Perunovich, but he's got no trade protection and he's the kind of guy you can trade to show the players that there are consequences for losing every game. He has been on the ice at 5v5 for 3 GF and 12 GA in the last 25 games... probably just tough luck but he's not doing anything at the moment.

Forum: Armchair-GM 2 avr à 20 h 15

Sujet: Blues Fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>So would something like two 3rds and a prospect for Blais and Sanford work?</div></div>

Its probably a situation where you move one or the other. Already gonna lose a guy to Seattle and the only internal guy really pushing for a top9 F spot next year is Kostin. Not much cap space either, depending on how it shakes out.

Forum: Armchair-GM 2 avr à 18 h 08

Sujet: Blues Fans

Probably not gonna get a consensus out of Blues fans here, and most of us are probably thinking differently than the front office, but IMO:

Sanford should've been gone last offseason when it looked like he was a good player - I'd take anything I can get for him at this point and I'd value the 3LW opening he'd create more than what he'll get on his next deal;

the price for Blais can't be that high based on his performances - maybe a 2nd/3rd rd pick or something like that - but I'd like to see him get more opportunity here;

Sundqvist isn't really tradeable during recovery from an ACL, but even if he wasn't injured I don't think he would get traded even with expansion looming. He's a key role player and they always seem to struggle when he's out of the lineup.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 mar à 23 h 58

Sujet: New Angle

Shades of Fabbri for De la Rose

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 14 h 05

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vegasloveforthebills</b></div><div>In this model, what do you think the cost for Perron would be, if there is one.

Vegas needs depth scoring, and the one team he would probably waive his NTC for is Vegas. And he is a fit here

Don’t know if a trade like that would help St. Louis with the expansion draft protections either.</div></div>

Hard to give a price because I know they won't move him (leading scorer) and it's doubtful he'd accept a trade anyway- but if they were going full "fire sale" I would think he could bring back a 1st and a pretty good prospect at least. 2 yr rental and producing well above his 4m cap hit.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 13 h 50

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>I don't think the isles will trade a 1st for a rental. Its a buyers market IMO.

How about:
Schwartz+Dunn for Wilde, bellows, 2021 1st , 2022 2nd.</div></div>

Not something I'd like to see personally but the value is probably reasonable. I do agree that it's a buyer's market rn and the Blues aren't gonna have much leverage specifically with Dunn at this point. Whoever trades for him is gonna win that trade.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 13 h 42

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Canes aren’t trading Mrazek - he’s their 1A when healthy with Ned likely the backup with Reimer mixed in. If you’re going to trade for a Canes goalie, it would be Reimer.</div></div>

Interesting. I just had heard they were looking at maybe moving a goalie and figured that it would be tough to move Reimer with his record this year. I'd rather it be Mrazek as the streaky guy that can come in and steal some games while Binnington tries to get back on track. But anyone that can stop the puck would be a big help at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 13 h 39

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>Schwartz is a very good player - he's not worth risking a 2022 1st in a stacked draft. Barzal could suffer a season ending injury and the isles end up in the 5-15 range. It' not worth it. The only way the isles should be including a 2022 is for a young top 6 winger with term</div></div>

I knew "stacked draft" was coming lol they're all "stacked drafts" when it's time to trade picks. Call it the 2021 1st then if you must; won't matter for the Blues if they draft like they did in 2020 just picking random names out of a hat.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 13 h 35

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>Oilers have zero cap dollars, so a contract would have to go back.</div></div>

Gotcha, I'd say anything that expires after this yr to make the cap work would be on the table if they decide to start selling. Although tbh I really don't know what GMDA is thinking about options right now, he is in a tough spot.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mar à 13 h 29

Sujet: 2 Options - Number 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>You guys should get a Sundqvist replacement</div></div>

I love Sunny and his versatility is definitely tough to replace but I think Bozak can be that guy to bring consistent defense/faceoffs/PK and help close out games, especially if there was enough depth to push him to the 4th line and then move him around when needed.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 mar à 23 h 51

Sujet: Hall rumor

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>When an insider says “I think team A would be interest in player” it’s not a rumor. It’s pure speculation based on potential fit. STL hasn’t been scoring so Friedman mentioned them.

Edit: I should also mention a rumor is when there’s more concrete details on a team being interested. I only say this because idk how STL fits Hall under the cap.</div></div>

This is where I came to see how the money would fit. Sanford or blais out and sunny ltir looks like it works for a 50% retained Hall. Sorry if rumor was the wrong title, just some new speculation I saw.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 mar à 23 h 37

Sujet: Hall rumor

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>My bad, i missed that
I think we get a 1st for Hall bc apparently he’s getting quite a bit of interest</div></div>

Thats not outside the realm of possibility. I was kinda surprised to see reported interest by the Blues but they have lost 8/10 so gotta look at some options I guess.

Forum: Armchair-GM27 mar à 23 h 25

Sujet: Hall rumor

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Where is that return “rumored” for Hall?
Link please</div></div>

Just a guess at what the Blues would offer. I put the Friedman reference in the description.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 mar à 14 h 01

Sujet: Should we sell Schwartz at the deadline

I don't think the front office will consider a soft sell like they've done before, but I'm also legitimately concerned that they're not gonna make the playoffs so who knows what they'll do. It's all about getting hot at the right time though, so there is some optimism that they'll find another gear especially if Parayko can come back and steady the defense. And if the goalies can provide some saves...

If I'm Armstrong, I haven't seen enough from guys like Blais and Sanford to talk myself out of extending Schwartz. I think he stays and signs 7 x 6.5.

Edit: fwiw I don't see any rental winger returning more than a 1st + prospect so without Komarov in there your raw trade value seems like a realistic expectation. The player value and the deadline trade value are two different things in this case.

Forum: Armchair-GM24 mar à 19 h 59

Sujet: RIP Bob Plager

Bobby Plager is synonymous with Blues hockey. Huge loss today 😥 RIP

Forum: Armchair-GM24 mar à 15 h 36

Sujet: Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>that does not get you sam reinhart</div></div>

Doesn't work for the Blues anyway. Reinhart would take Schwartz's money so all the sudden STL has Reinhart instead of 3 forwards - Schwartz, Blais, Kostin - and they lose a 1st and their best goalie prospect in the process. All for Reinhart to be fighting with Perron, Kyrou, and Tarasenko for ice on RW.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mar à 21 h 09

Sujet: Every teams worst move over the past 5 years - BUF edition

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>Fine, lemme correct a bit here.

At this very moment it's looking like ROR trade was the worst mistake.</div></div>

Agree. If you consider that the hole from the ROR trade is what led to the Skinner acquisition a month later and created the cap space for the extension, then it's a no-brainer which one was worse.

And maybe this is piling it on, but I have a hunch that the Blues were in on Skinner before the ROR trade but he wouldnt waive or he wouldn't talk extension with St Louis. I remember Armstrong talking with Skinner's agent on the draft floor. Alternate universe stuff...

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mar à 18 h 07

Sujet: My predictions for the final standings-ideas

The way the Blues have been playing I'd be more worried about them keeping the 4th spot than overtaking the Wild for 3rd, although they will play each other 8x coming up so anything can happen. Hopefully getting healthy can get them back on track.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mar à 16 h 18

Sujet: Garland

I've been watching a lot of the West and I can honestly say Garland has been one of the best players in the whole division. If the Yotes are silly enough to shop him I would think they can do better. Super cheap, team-controlled and in his prime. Tbh I'm not sure the Bruins would have the right pieces available for it. Something like a top-15 pick, blue chip prospect, roster player. If you could get him for this package I'd say 100% do it.

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