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Rock Solid Defence

Créé par: MitchMarner_16
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2020
Publié: 15 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
That Top Four is ROCK SOLID. It’s gonna be a lot harder to penetrate that defence.

NSH Trade:
Nashville gets a ton of speed and skill in Nylander and Johnsson. They get some bottom 4 defence with tremendous upside. Plus they cash in with a couple of picks as well.
Toronto gets the long coveted RHD they’ve been looking for forever. They also get someone to replace Alex Kerfoot and some depth at RW to compensate for the loss of Nylander.
Ellis = Nylander, Dermott
Jarnkrok = Johnsson, 4th
Watson = 3rd

TBL Trade:
I’ve seen this trade proposed many times. Not much new here. It helps Tampa keep some more of their RFAs.

BUF Trade:
Gives buffalo someone behind Eichel, but doesn’t have to be the sabres. Could be anyone looking for low end middle six centre.

LA Trade:
Gives the leafs some injury depth. Really not a whole lot here to look at.

Please let me know your thoughts on this ACGM.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
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Transactions
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NSH
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Nylander, William
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Cernak, Erik [Droits de RFA]
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Kyle Clifford
LAK
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
5.
LAK
  1. Petan, Nicolas
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (COL)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
2021 5th round pick is conditional. *** If Petan plays in at least 30 games for LA, pick transfers ***
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15 août 2020 à 8 h 7
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Ngl this might be the first time I’ve looked at a leafs team and been like sure, why not. All trades seem good - not sure Tampa does that just bc cernak has been solid and I hate betting on prospects but obviously something needs to give with their cap, so I could still see it happening. Good stuff
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15 août 2020 à 8 h 12
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You know the much heralded and expensive Nashville Dmen allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs last year. So to call an RHD addition "rock solid" is iffy. Watson's effectiveness has declined.
Maybe the trade values are fair (exception the LA trade,) but are the Leafs any better? Left wing extremely weak.
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15 août 2020 à 8 h 20
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I like Ellis, and watched him back in Windsor. He is a good D but undersized and making 6M... I don't like him for the Leafs.

Nylander is very good and has a lot of upside... i am thinking a higher quality player returns than Ellis... leafs need championship pedigree
15 août 2020 à 8 h 48
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You know the much heralded and expensive Nashville Dmen allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs last year. So to call an RHD addition "rock solid" is iffy. Watson's effectiveness has declined.
Maybe the trade values are fair (exception the LA trade,) but are the Leafs any better? Left wing extremely weak.


What? Ellis is literally 3rd in GAR this year in the entire league. Idk if you noticed but Rinne went from a .918sv% to .895%. Their goaltending was absolutely horrid for a substantial portion of the year. Their entire top 4 had positive corsi this season too, lead by Ellis woth a 54.2% and a 3.6% rel. Thats literally higher than ever defense on the Leafs but Barrie. The Leafs literally havent had a defenseman as good as Ellis in nearly 20 years.
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15 août 2020 à 8 h 51
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Nylander is not going anywhere
15 août 2020 à 8 h 58
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Quoting: palhal
You know the much heralded and expensive Nashville Dmen allowed just 8 fewer goals than the Leafs last year. So to call an RHD addition "rock solid" is iffy. Watson's effectiveness has declined.
Maybe the trade values are fair (exception the LA trade,) but are the Leafs any better? Left wing extremely weak.


Lol. You literally never say anything good about a Leafs post even if it's fairly decent like this one. You're such a homer and just believe in keeping the roster together and "eventually" they'll win. That's not how it works. Moves need to be made to address areas of weakness. Saying "the left wing is extremely weak"? .. well all the user did was move Johnsson from left side. And he's likely to be moved for cap reasons anyways. It would actually probably be Jarnkrok on the wing and Watson at centre and Jarnkrok is a slight upgrade on Johnsson. Ellis may be a bit undersized but he's proven to still provide good defensive play and Toronto has made it known they don't wanna just acquire a goon for that spot. So that's another upgrade on the team. So why don't you stop bashing the moves and recognize a good post when it's literally right in front of you.
15 août 2020 à 8 h 59
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Why bother with Moore. Barabanov is the Russian version of Moore
15 août 2020 à 9 h 1
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That tampa deal has to be an error or a joke.
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15 août 2020 à 9 h 5
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Overall, this is a fairly reasonable post. Few slight changes I might add though. I'd keep Kerfoot over Jarnkrok. I think Kerfoot has a bit more bite to his game that's valuable to this team. I'd probably swap Jarnkrok for a prospect like Tolvanen. The Preds are desperate for offence so I think he could be squeezed out, and I think the value is still fair.

I wouldn't do the Tampa trade at all. I think Liljegren still has some untapped potential and moving him in the division would be pretty risky, I don't think Cernak is worth that risk.

Don't sign Clifford. Reports were out that he wanted $2M x 3 years, and even what you have him signed for cost the team a 2nd round pick. He's just not worth losing a 2nd. The pick is gonna be more useful for Toronto to start adding in younger talent to the system to be able to recycle when needed.

As much as I'd love to see Moore come back, I don't think LA moved him back to the team that traded him. He was moved for a reason. And with guys like Mikheyev and Barabanov that can play the same role, he's really not needed back either.

Good chances Gudas signs in Toronto too apparently so the cap space will be needed to sign him.

Overall pretty good though, one of the better posts I've seen in awhile.
15 août 2020 à 9 h 8
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That tampa deal has to be an error or a joke.


A team in cap trouble getting a good prospect to fill the same position and help sign their other RFA's? ... yeah. Must be a real lame joke then 🙄
15 août 2020 à 9 h 9
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Is nylanders value worth a top RHD?
15 août 2020 à 9 h 20
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Sabres drop the 2nd and accept. They arent going to pay Toronto to help them with their cap problem
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15 août 2020 à 9 h 28
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Why bother with Moore. Barabanov is the Russian version of Moore


I was just going for depth.
15 août 2020 à 9 h 31
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I was just going for depth.


I mean fair but now we have two identical players in the system lol
15 août 2020 à 9 h 52
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I understand Ellis is a good defenceman... but he's already 29 y/o and has 7 years left on his contract. That seems like a huge risk for the Leafs to take on, especially considering defenceman can age and fall off quickly.
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Sabres drop the 2nd and accept. They arent going to pay Toronto to help them with their cap problem


The Leafs decline then. If you want a good defensive and an offensive forward, that is what Kerfoot is. He would be worth a late first even
15 août 2020 à 11 h 4
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The Leafs decline then. If you want a good defensive and an offensive forward, that is what Kerfoot is. He would be worth a late first even


so valuable that leafs nation constantly dumps on him and moves him for pennies
15 août 2020 à 11 h 34
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NSH accepts the Watson for a 3rd part of your proposal and declines the rest.
15 août 2020 à 11 h 55
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Overall, this is a fairly reasonable post. Few slight changes I might add though. I'd keep Kerfoot over Jarnkrok. I think Kerfoot has a bit more bite to his game that's valuable to this team. I'd probably swap Jarnkrok for a prospect like Tolvanen. The Preds are desperate for offence so I think he could be squeezed out, and I think the value is still fair.


I don't think the "Preds are desperate for offense, so let's ask for their 2nd best offensive prospect" idea works for NSH.
15 août 2020 à 13 h 17
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I don't think the "Preds are desperate for offense, so let's ask for their 2nd best offensive prospect" idea works for NSH.


They're GM literally came out and said he wasn't happy with their entire 2nd line and that guys are going to be moved to fix it.. sounds like their in need of offence to me 🤷🏻‍♂️
15 août 2020 à 13 h 46
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They're GM literally came out and said he wasn't happy with their entire 2nd line and that guys are going to be moved to fix it.. sounds like their in need of offence to me 🤷🏻‍♂️


Sure, but why would they trade one of their few offensive prospects, if they're looking for offence?

In that same press conference you're referencing, Poile specifically mentioned giving Tolvanen a chance on the 2nd line with Duchene.

Nylander would be a great addition to NSH, but trading Ellis creates a bigger hole than Nylander fills. None of the rest of the pieces coming back here are of much use to the Preds. NSH passes on the OP, and definitely on the Tolvanen version.
15 août 2020 à 16 h 8
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A team in cap trouble getting a good prospect to fill the same position and help sign their other RFA's? ... yeah. Must be a real lame joke then 🙄


The only advantage to Liljegren is that he is expansion exempt. The disadvantage is he is not top 4 ready next year. Tqmpa can very likely sign Cernak to a 1M x 1yr deal essentially making the cap difference meaningless.
15 août 2020 à 16 h 33
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The only advantage to Liljegren is that he is expansion exempt. The disadvantage is he is not top 4 ready next year. Tqmpa can very likely sign Cernak to a 1M x 1yr deal essentially making the cap difference meaningless.


There's no chance Cernak signs that deal. LOL
15 août 2020 à 16 h 35
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There's no chance Cernak signs that deal. LOL


just like there was no chance Lebanc signed that deal? Hes a 2M player, to keep the team together he will sign a team friendly deal for arbitration right.
15 août 2020 à 19 h 16
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just like there was no chance Lebanc signed that deal? Hes a 2M player, to keep the team together he will sign a team friendly deal for arbitration right.


... & look where they got Labanc. Players don't sign massive discounted deals like that anymore. Keep dreaming if that's what you think there bud
 
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