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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSat at 3:19 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>the ironic thing was with nylander the announcers predicted getting him resigned would be a nightmare as his father had the same attitude when it came to money. As for Matthews that contract was high but if u think about it, If Mcdavid never got 12.5 mill most good players would probably get kane money 10.5 or even less. Whenever a team sets a bar for a good player other teams follow. Karlsson can thank doughty for getting 11.65 mill and so on. The main thing is sure dubas overpaid but at the same time matthews has recently been playing his best hockey yet and may be on the verge of multiple 100point seasons. As for Marner I would give him a B+. I think he is just overthinking things on the team and trying to do to much. He also is on a new line with Matthews so hes getting used to playing with a different center but so far its gone pretty well. Next season Keefe should maybe consider putting the tavares line back together and trying (Nylander - Matthews - Kapenan) as that line could be interesting to see. we will just have to wait and see what dubas plans for this team come the 2020-2021 season</div></div>

It's the term on Matthews' contract that kills me, not so much the money. Even now though, most players are signing for 10 million ish. Eichel, 8x10. Rantanen, 6x9.25. Panarin is the only forward aside from Matthews and Mcdavid, who makes more than 11 million and he was a UFA so his price went up. I do think Matthews and Marner need more time together but they can be a dynamite combination, just look at the 8-6 win against Carolina back in December. The chemistry was UNREAL.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSat at 3:14 pm
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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSat at 2:28 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div><a href="/users/aadoyle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@aadoyle</a> <a href="/users/LeafsFanForSomeReason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@LeafsFanForSomeReason</a> <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> <a href="/users/leafs_and_sens_fan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@leafs_and_sens_fan</a> <a href="/users/JaredOfLondon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@JaredOfLondon</a> <a href="/users/jack_" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@jack_</a> <a href="/users/Random2152" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Random2152</a>

Alright, so I think it’s time to assess Marner’s play this season. He finished off on a 22 goal 93 point pace. According to his isolated impact charts, he was 6% above the league average in driving offence. He was 13% above the league average in defensive contributions. He had a 54.13 GF%, a 56.61 xGF% &amp; a 52.5% Corsi. It is obvious he did not live up to the contract he signed, but how would you grade him for his performances? Personally, I give a D-.</div></div>

I give him a B-. D- is harsh for a player who was on pace for 93 points, and according to the stats you just mentioned, was an above-average play driver in both ends which is impressive considering the fact that he's a trusted PK player who scores as much as he does deserves a lot of credit. He'll always be overpaid in my eyes unless he becomes a 120 point player every year for the next 5 years. He was solid, but we expect him to be spectacular. This year, he was not. I'll also cut him some slack for JT's injury and the time if took him to get back to form, and for the tough start under Babcock.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 2:22 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchMarnerElite </b></div><div></div></div>

Kinda late since I had internet issues but here goes:

Kadri in Toronto just wasn't going to work out. He was a 2nd line C who was playing 13 minutes a night after Tavares came here. He was a great trade chip and Dubas bungled it. They were right to trade him, but Barrie and Kerfoot weren't the right guys. I would have tried to convince him to go to Calgary (after he vetoed a trade there) and got Brodie or Hamonic along with Jankowski. Both would have fit better IMO. I agree with what you said about Marleau but I think the 3rd year was important to him, I think the extra job security is what convinced him to leave SJ and come here. I don't like the idea of trading Robertson, or scratching Liljegren and Sandin. Sandin is NHL ready, if they can give him a better partner than Barrie. Matt Roy might be good, but is he 1st pairing material? I would argue Walker is better than him if we're getting a RHD from the Kings. Neither are worth Robertson though.

Keeping McElhinney would have been the right call but hindsight is 20/20, Dubas wanted to go with a younger guy that the org groomed and who had a great year in the AHL the year before. It's a decision that any GM would have spent a long time thinking about and even though it didn't work out, I won't criticize him for it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>So, the Leafs front office as made a lot of mistakes that’s costed this team to be in shambles. It all went wrong from that Zaitsev signing. He had an unimpressive rookie season. Looked great on the offensive side of the game, poor defensively. Should’ve given him 1 year maximum &amp; if he doesn’t improve, let him walk.

The Marleau signing - should’ve given him 2 years at 9.375 million AAV. They had the cap to pay him &amp; no reason to burn a first rounder the next season to dump him cuz you need to pay Marner.

Keep McElhinney

Revert Kadri trade.

Sign Matthews 12x8

Sign Marner 9x8

Trade Nick Robertson for Matt Roy of LAK

Trade Andreas Johnsson + 2020 1st Round Pick to CHI for Henri Jokiharju

I disagree with paying Marleau so much on a two year deal. I don't know the the Leafs even wanted him in the place. Better ways to spend 6.25m. Leadership....I don't get it.
Should never signed Babcock. His coaching cost the Leafs at least one playoff series lost to Boston...maybe two. Plus he put Leafs way behind in the standings before he was fired.
I don't know if the Kadri trade was so bad. But who would have guessed Barrie would have the Leafs worse Dman this season.
Unreasonable to expect Matthews or Marner to sign those contracts. Player had the option not to sign, What the Leaf should've done is let Nylander sit last year, and then they would have go Matthews and Marner on more reasonable (league comparable) contracts.
Matt. Roy and Jokiharju aren't THAT good.</div></div>

Marleau was solid for the Leafs and the Leafs had a lot of cap those 2 years. Wouldn't have been a problem to pay him that money for 2 years, and just let a prospect (like Kap) take over after that. Matthews' contract was terrible (should have either been longer or cheaper) and Marner was able to use that as a comparable which turned into a major problem. If Dubas had played his cards right, he'd have Matthews at 7 years, 11.5 million AAV (similar to what Panarin ended up signing for) and Marner at 6 years for 9.25 (which is exactly what Mikko Rantanen signed over in Colorado). Nylander maybe 500k lower too but I think his is the best of the 3 for sure.

Babcock was good to help the rebuild and in Matthews+Marner's rookie year, he was robbed of the Jack Adams in my opinion. He did a great job that year. After that, I don't know what got into him but he wasn't the same, way to stubborn and inflexible. Should have let him go at the end of last year instead of letting him start this one.

In terms of this team, I don't like Brown at 3.5 (even though he's done well in Ottawa he wouldn't have been a 1st liner in Toronto, Hyman is guaranteed a spot on either Matthews or Tavares wing because he makes them both better). Defence is weak but it's going to be that way next year anyway barring a big move. Kadri should be gone for a Dman who they could re-sign for a similar cap (Hamonic and Brodie come to mind again).
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